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Tyre Reviews Best Summer Touring Tyres

Jonathan Benson
Tested and written by Jonathan Benson
11 min read Updated
Below are all the data points for the Tyre Reviews Best Summer Touring Tyres, displaying how each tyre performed across all test categories. The spider chart below provides a complete overview of performance, where one hundred percent represents the best performance in each category. The larger the area covered by each tyre's plot, the better its overall performance.
How to read these charts: For each test category, data is presented relative to the best performing tire. The direction indicates whether lower or higher values are better - pay close attention to this when interpreting results.

Performance Overview

This radar chart shows relative performance across all test categories, with 100% representing the best performance in each category. Reference tires may have gaps where data is not available.

Vredestein Ultrac
Nankang Econex NA1
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
Bridgestone Turanza T005
Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
Toyo Proxes Comfort
Double-Coin DC99
GT-Radial FE2
Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
Kumho Ecsta HS52
Hankook Ventus Prime 4
Continental PremiumContact 7

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Dry Performance Overview

Dry Braking (M)

Spread: 4.35 M (12.3%) | Avg: 36.52 M

Dry braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Continental PremiumContact 7 with a result of 35.27 M. The difference between best and worst was 11%.
  1. Continental PremiumContact 7
    35.27 M
  2. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    35.29 M
  3. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    35.74 M
  4. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    35.9 M
  5. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    36.09 M
  6. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    36.15 M
  7. Vredestein Ultrac
    36.26 M
  8. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    36.31 M
  9. GT-Radial FE2
    36.35 M
  10. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    36.58 M
  11. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    36.7 M
  12. Nankang Econex NA1
    38.45 M
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    39.62 M

Dry Handling (s)

Spread: 1.81 s (3.5%) | Avg: 52.20 s

Dry handling time in seconds (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Kumho Ecsta HS52 with a result of 51.58 s. The difference between best and worst was 3.4%.
  1. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    51.58 s
  2. Continental PremiumContact 7
    51.73 s
  3. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    51.78 s
  4. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    51.85 s
  5. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    52.04 s
  6. GT-Radial FE2
    52.16 s
  7. Nankang Econex NA1
    52.23 s
  8. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    52.26 s
  9. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    52.28 s
  10. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    52.36 s
  11. Vredestein Ultrac
    52.4 s
  12. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    52.6 s
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    53.39 s

Subj. Dry Handling ( Points)

Spread: 70.00 Points (70%) | Avg: 83.85 Points

Subjective Dry Handling Score (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Continental PremiumContact 7 with a result of 100 Points. The difference between best and worst was 70%.
  1. Continental PremiumContact 7
    100 Points
  2. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    95 Points
  3. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    95 Points
  4. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    90 Points
  5. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    90 Points
  6. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    90 Points
  7. Vredestein Ultrac
    85 Points
  8. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    85 Points
  9. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    85 Points
  10. GT-Radial FE2
    85 Points
  11. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    85 Points
  12. Nankang Econex NA1
    75 Points
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    30 Points

Wet Performance Overview

Wet Braking (M)

Spread: 14.46 M (45.8%) | Avg: 35.75 M

Wet braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Continental PremiumContact 7 with a result of 31.58 M. The difference between best and worst was 31.4%.
  1. Continental PremiumContact 7
    31.58 M
  2. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    32.88 M
  3. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    32.91 M
  4. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    33.88 M
  5. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    34.12 M
  6. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    34.34 M
  7. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    34.36 M
  8. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    34.94 M
  9. Vredestein Ultrac
    35.29 M
  10. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    36.51 M
  11. GT-Radial FE2
    38.23 M
  12. Nankang Econex NA1
    39.61 M
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    46.04 M

Wet Handling (s)

Spread: 11.46 s (13.5%) | Avg: 87.03 s

Wet handling time in seconds (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2 with a result of 84.81 s. The difference between best and worst was 11.9%.
  1. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    84.81 s
  2. Continental PremiumContact 7
    84.85 s
  3. Vredestein Ultrac
    84.91 s
  4. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    85.31 s
  5. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    85.72 s
  6. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    86.21 s
  7. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    86.47 s
  8. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    86.58 s
  9. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    86.67 s
  10. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    87 s
  11. GT-Radial FE2
    87.27 s
  12. Nankang Econex NA1
    89.36 s
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    96.27 s

Subj. Wet Handling ( Points)

Spread: 50.00 Points (50%) | Avg: 90.38 Points

Subjective Wet Handling Score (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Vredestein Ultrac with a result of 100 Points. The difference between best and worst was 50%.
  1. Vredestein Ultrac
    100 Points
  2. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    100 Points
  3. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    100 Points
  4. Continental PremiumContact 7
    100 Points
  5. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    95 Points
  6. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    95 Points
  7. GT-Radial FE2
    95 Points
  8. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    95 Points
  9. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    95 Points
  10. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    90 Points
  11. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    90 Points
  12. Nankang Econex NA1
    70 Points
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    50 Points

Wet Circle (s)

Spread: 1.34 s (11.7%) | Avg: 11.80 s

Wet Circle Lap Time in seconds (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Continental PremiumContact 7 with a result of 11.5 s. The difference between best and worst was 10.4%.
  1. Continental PremiumContact 7
    11.5 s
  2. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    11.57 s
  3. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    11.6 s
  4. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    11.65 s
  5. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    11.68 s
  6. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    11.68 s
  7. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    11.69 s
  8. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    11.71 s
  9. Vredestein Ultrac
    11.74 s
  10. Nankang Econex NA1
    11.88 s
  11. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    11.89 s
  12. GT-Radial FE2
    12.01 s
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    12.84 s

Straight Aqua (Km/H)

Spread: 16.23 Km/H (20.1%) | Avg: 74.94 Km/H

Float Speed in Km/H (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Vredestein Ultrac with a result of 80.78 Km/H. The difference between best and worst was 20.1%.
  1. Vredestein Ultrac
    80.78 Km/H
  2. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    78.92 Km/H
  3. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    78.18 Km/H
  4. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    76.18 Km/H
  5. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    75.47 Km/H
  6. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    75.33 Km/H
  7. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    74.98 Km/H
  8. Continental PremiumContact 7
    74.91 Km/H
  9. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    74.33 Km/H
  10. Nankang Econex NA1
    74.13 Km/H
  11. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    73.6 Km/H
  12. GT-Radial FE2
    72.92 Km/H
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    64.55 Km/H

Curved Aquaplaning (m/sec2)

Spread: 1.42 m/sec2 (38.4%) | Avg: 3.24 m/sec2

Remaining lateral acceleration (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Vredestein Ultrac with a result of 3.7 m/sec2. The difference between best and worst was 38.4%.
  1. Vredestein Ultrac
    3.7 m/sec2
  2. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    3.56 m/sec2
  3. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    3.42 m/sec2
  4. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    3.4 m/sec2
  5. GT-Radial FE2
    3.37 m/sec2
  6. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    3.33 m/sec2
  7. Continental PremiumContact 7
    3.3 m/sec2
  8. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    3.28 m/sec2
  9. Nankang Econex NA1
    3.25 m/sec2
  10. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    3.19 m/sec2
  11. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    3.19 m/sec2
  12. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    2.81 m/sec2
  13. Double-Coin DC99
    2.28 m/sec2

Comfort Performance Overview

Subj. Comfort ( Points)

Spread: 10.00 Points (10%) | Avg: 93.77 Points

Subjective Comfort Score (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun with a result of 100 Points. The difference between best and worst was 10%.
  1. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    100 Points
  2. Vredestein Ultrac
    95 Points
  3. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    95 Points
  4. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    95 Points
  5. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    95 Points
  6. GT-Radial FE2
    95 Points
  7. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    95 Points
  8. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    95 Points
  9. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    92 Points
  10. Continental PremiumContact 7
    92 Points
  11. Nankang Econex NA1
    90 Points
  12. Double-Coin DC99
    90 Points
  13. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    90 Points

Noise (dB)

Spread: 2.60 dB (3.7%) | Avg: 71.42 dB

External noise in dB (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Double-Coin DC99 with a result of 70.2 dB. The difference between best and worst was 3.6%.
  1. Double-Coin DC99
    70.2 dB
  2. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    70.3 dB
  3. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    70.4 dB
  4. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    70.7 dB
  5. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    70.8 dB
  6. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    71.3 dB
  7. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    71.6 dB
  8. GT-Radial FE2
    71.8 dB
  9. Nankang Econex NA1
    71.9 dB
  10. Vredestein Ultrac
    72 dB
  11. Continental PremiumContact 7
    72.2 dB
  12. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    72.4 dB
  13. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    72.8 dB

Value Performance Overview

Price

Spread: 49.57 (98.9%) | Avg: 79.14

Price in local currency (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Double-Coin DC99. The difference between best and worst was 49.7%.
  1. Double-Coin DC99
    50.12
  2. Nankang Econex NA1
    58.29
  3. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    63.49
  4. GT-Radial FE2
    71.15
  5. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    71.8
  6. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    78.5
  7. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    81.39
  8. Vredestein Ultrac
    85.59
  9. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    89.19
  10. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    89.39
  11. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    93.89
  12. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    96.39
  13. Continental PremiumContact 7
    99.69

Rolling Resistance (kg / t)

Spread: 2.42 kg / t (35.8%) | Avg: 8.27 kg / t

Rolling resistance in kg t (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Bridgestone Turanza T005 with a result of 6.76 kg / t. The difference between best and worst was 26.4%.
  1. Bridgestone Turanza T005
    6.76 kg / t
  2. Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
    7.52 kg / t
  3. Toyo Proxes Comfort
    7.69 kg / t
  4. Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
    8.22 kg / t
  5. Michelin Primacy 4 Plus
    8.24 kg / t
  6. GT-Radial FE2
    8.34 kg / t
  7. Hankook Ventus Prime 4
    8.36 kg / t
  8. Continental PremiumContact 7
    8.38 kg / t
  9. Kumho Ecsta HS52
    8.48 kg / t
  10. Double-Coin DC99
    8.63 kg / t
  11. Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
    8.72 kg / t
  12. Vredestein Ultrac
    9.02 kg / t
  13. Nankang Econex NA1
    9.18 kg / t

Overall Findings

Based on the weighted scoring from all tests, here are the overall results:

Position Tyre Score
Continental PremiumContact 7 97.3%
2 Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2 96%
3 Bridgestone Turanza T005 95.9%
4 Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2 95.7%
5 Michelin Primacy 4 Plus 95.1%
6 Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun 94.5%
7 Hankook Ventus Prime 4 94.2%
8 Kumho Ecsta HS52 94.1%
9 Vredestein Ultrac 93.9%
10 Toyo Proxes Comfort 93.9%
11 GT-Radial FE2 92%
12 Nankang Econex NA1 87.6%
13 Double-Coin DC99 80.3%

Test Winner

Double-Coin DC99
Double-Coin DC99

80.3%

Discussion

111 comments
  1. Awais Iqbal archived

    Your tests results are comprehensive and explained in detail. However, i would like to see some more details about some other Taiwan and Singapore based tired brands which may be included in tests. I don't know the reason to include Double Coin in tests. I hope that some other china based reputable brands can be included in tests

    #9822
  2. RP archived

    One thing I find really odd is that the Conti PC7 won the latest tyre reviews UHP test AND the premium touring test!

    On one hand, it beat out the eagle f1 asym 6 and PS5 when judged on UHP standards, but also beat touring tyres when judged on those standards…

    @TyreReviews:disqus , does this mean that the PC7 is the best tyre across both segments, regardless if the user is looking for sportiness or comfort?

    #9815
  3. T Burrows archived

    Often find these test results differ from my own real world experience, for example our F56 Mini is running Khumo HS52 tyres, whereas our F48 X1 came fitted with Bridgestone T001, and the Bridgestone is defiantly an inferior tyre to the Khumo in all aspects, as its prone to tramlining, has minimal wet grip, is overly firm giving an unsettled ride, and often prone to tyre roar. Where the Khumo gives a positive feel through the steering, has good levels of grip in both the dry and wet, gives a comfortable ride, and generally is pretty quiet, depending on how bad the road surface is obviously. Currently have Vredestein Wintrac Pro + fitted to the F48, and again I highly rate them (though yet to try them in snow), which is contrary to their first test result.

    #9749
    1. TyreReviews T Burrows archived

      Real world experiences can certainly differ from tests, but in this case I think it's down to two reasons. 1) You had the T001, I tested the T005 and 2) and more importantly, that's likely an OE spec T001 which BMW will have requested dry grip and low rolling resistance which really hurts wet grip. And it might be a runflat vs non-runflat thing?

      #9750
  4. Eideen archived

    I am curious how would 10 Celsius affect the racking. Would a softer/ better summer tire better at all temperatures for 10, 15 and 20?.

    #9654
    1. TyreReviews Eideen archived

      Generally 'softer' summer tyres that perform well in the hotter conditions get harder quicker at low temperatures which is why we see tires like the Potenza Sport performing very well in warm wet braking tests, but people report on the road in cold conditions it can get hard and slippy.

      #9660
  5. Domantas Grigūnas archived

    Hi there, I am very confused about which tyres to choose, as I can't find them anywhere comparable in one test. Is it better to take the Falken Ziex ZE310 Ecorun or the Falken Azenis FK520. Tyre dimensions 225/50 R17.

    #9612
    1. TyreReviews Domantas Grigūnas archived

      The falken website does a good job of explaining. The short version is the 520 is more sporty and the 320 is a touring tyre.

      #9613
  6. davidg archived

    hi there, for my Mazda MX5 (ND latest generation 1500) (195/50/16 84V) - your quick opinion if possible?
    based on your review I'm hesitating between Goodyear Efficient Grip (since you say they're more engaging than the Michelin Primacy) or the Kumho Ecsta. Seems the Kumhos will wear a lot quicker (43,000km v 66,000km - re. the ADAC Summer test 2023 on your site) - but that's offset by a big price advantage for the Kumhos.
    You rated the Kumhos 5 points higher on subjective dry handling - so I guess that means your found them more fun??
    Any advice or other suggestions?
    I'm looking for good all round daily driver tyres with nice sharp feel to complement the little Mazda.
    From your great video I get the feeling these 2 are good options ...
    thanks for any tips and the great content!

    #9581
    1. TyreReviews davidg archived

      Sorry, just seen this. I answered your email.

      #9600
  7. Dr Towers archived

    Goodyear 4th...?? Bit harsh?

    #9567
      1. Dr Towers TyreReviews archived

        9 out of 13 categories it beats the Bridgestone above it, including all 3 wet categories. (I have also included subjective comfort which scored a draw, but the impression was that Goodyear was more comfortable (and I have found this cf the prev (stiff) Turanza over speed bumps!)

        #9607
        1. TyreReviews Dr Towers archived

          It was very close between the tyres, I'm sure you could find a score weighting that promotes the GY up which you can play with here:

          https://www.tyrereviews.com...

          I didn't test wear, if I had the Goodyear would have certainly been ahead.

          #9617
          1. Dr Towers TyreReviews archived

            Thank you, I am considering the new Pirelli incarnation. Seems to be doing well. I do like my Goodyears for speedbumps, def more comfy that older Turanza. Do you have a feel for how the Pirelli and T005 are with speedbumps, ie soft or harsher? Thank you!! This may be a "category" you could consider incorporating to tests!

            #9618
            1. TyreReviews Dr Towers archived

              I don't recall the comfort ratings now but they should be in the video if I tested them. Sometimes I don't have enough time.

              Historically the T005 is quite comfortable though this has now been replaced by the Turanza 6.

              #9620
  8. Йордан Крекмански archived

    Thank you for the countless hours of work you put in every video ! It really helps!
    You have many videos on all season tires, can you compare them to summer tires sometimes? At least some quick thoughts? Here in Bulgaria we used to have a lot of snow in the winter, but the last 2 years we had snow 3 times, the worst of which was about 10cm... so I believe we can do with all seasons, instead of summer+winter, but that would depend on the tire qualities.

    I drive about 13-17k kilometers per year with summer/winter tires, have 2 kids so I never drive fast or sporty thus I really don't see the appeal in premium tires when I know that they will be trash in 4 years no matter what the tire is...Also - I am (not a complaint to you) really annoyed about the fact that all test on all websites and youtube channels include always the premium brands and on a rare ocasion a mid range tire or two. We all know the premiums are great and all of them will do a fantastic job. However in the mid tier there are corner cuts that lead to bigger differences and if I search for one certain tire on 4-5 websites I always get different comments on in. I can NEVER get the correct info on a mid tier tire because it is either never compared to the same mid tier tires in different tests, or different tests give VERY different results when comparing mostly the same tires.
    SO... can you try and give your thoughts on more mid range tires please?

    Once again - I really appreciate your knowledge and always rely on it! I have been really happy with both my Nokian Wetproof and Hankook icept rs2 - both chosen after your tests came out!

    #9563
    1. TyreReviews Йордан Крекмански archived

      There's usually a named summer tyre in the all season tests for reference, and I have directly compared them a number of times in older videos.

      I have a midrange specific test, I suggest you find the ADAC and autobild tests on the site as they start with a huge amount of patterns!

      #9588
  9. TyreReviews archived

    Sadly they pay more attention to external noise as that is on the EU label but the big manufacturers will also spend a lot of time on internal.

    #9555
  10. TyreReviews archived

    It must be variance in test methods, though we usually test our noise to the same standard as the label.

    #9547
  11. Bruce archived

    Seems almost impossible to find the right size for my weels, hence what is the best summer tyre for 195/55 R16 87W? Thanks a lot

    #9534
    1. TyreReviews Scour archived

      I've seen, excited to get them on the site but I'm busy testing at the moment!

      #9381
        1. TyreReviews Scour archived

          Thanks for sharing :) They'll be appearing on the site next week.

          #9385
  12. MrPeebly archived

    Please can you recommend best tyre set for Mercedes w205 1.6 petrol c-class estate automatic AMG line. Social domestic + pleasure use, c. 8,000 miles per annum. Tyre sizes are Front: 225/45 R18 95Y, Rear: 245/40 ZR18 97Y XL

    Based in the UK, I want to make a sound investment in a good all round tyre with low road noise for both summer and winter use. I have been recommended Michelin Primacy 4, is this a good choice or is there better? Thank you in advance for any advice given.

    #9356
    1. MrPeebly MrPeebly archived

      Decided to seek advice from manufacturers and up purchasing 245/40 R18 97YXL MO (Michelin product code 85894) ie Primacy 4 as advised by Michelin and Mercedes. Delighted with the tyres performance and also the excellent fitting service from Costco.

      #9422
  13. Bart archived

    Advice for s class 275/35/20 what tyres would you suggest had Flakens and last only 4 months, around 40k miles

    #9340
    1. TyreReviews Bart archived

      You drive 40k miles in 4 months?!

      That's a tough size for a long lasting tyre, the conventional wisdom would be to fit whatever Michelin product you can get.

      #9341
      1. Bart TyreReviews archived

        yes chauffeur service, had Yokohama on previous s class and they fab long lasting unfortunately not sure if I will find Yokohama in this size

        #9342
        1. bart Bart archived

          also thought about Vredestein Ultrac PRO

          #9343
          1. TyreReviews bart archived

            I didn't even know that tire existed until just now! If it's cost effective it might be worth a try, modern Vred products are getting pretty good and wearing well.

            #9344
  14. duki archived

    I will buy some new tyres for my mitsubishi colt 1.3 95hp 2011 soon. I am using 195/50 r15 turanza t005 for almost 60k kms so far. Decent tyre so far, and hold up nicely, not exceptional though, and rubber is still there, hard compound probably. Tyres have still meat on them. I have bought 16 inch wheels so i am going to need 205/45 r16 tyres. I want the best summer tyre there is. I value short braking distance and handling above everything else. I am thinking of premium contact 6, turanza t005 or t006, hankook prime 4, rainsport 5, advan fleva v701, efficient performance 2, pilot sport 3, ziex ecorun. Weather is warm most times of the year. Summer is very hot 40+ Celsius, winters are mild about 5-15 Celsius. I want the tyre to perform the best on wet and dry and be ready to use instantly without the need for a lot of warming up. My car is light (990kg) and has low power (95hp, 125 nm). I want to be able to rely on it, running an errand around city or fast bends on highway and good breaking in bad pavements or good asphalt too. Safety and ability to handle manoeuvres is my priority. Any specific recommendations?
    Thanks .

    #9330
    1. TyreReviews duki archived

      In my experience based on that list the Conti would be my choice.

      #9333
  15. Θείος Νώντας archived

    How would you rate the Toyo Proxes Comfort compared to Proxes CF2?

    #9240
  16. Robert Reeves archived

    I need advice! So many different reviews. I’m in UK very high motorway mileage in a Corolla Hybrid which has awful tyre noise. 225/45r17
    I’m after the quietest cabin and best aquaplaning control. Nothing else matters much.
    Any suggestions? Thanks

    #8989
    1. Robert Reeves Robert Reeves archived

      Well, actually, stopping matters as well lol

      #8990
      1. TyreReviews Robert Reeves archived

        Uniroyal rainsport 5 is very good in aquaplaning and very comfortable. Bridgestone Turanza T005 will stop you better though.

        #8991
        1. Robert Reeves TyreReviews archived

          Thank you, do you think the Turanza T005 is cabin quieter than the Primacy 4+ ?

          #8992
          1. TyreReviews Robert Reeves archived

            I can't remember off the top of my head, I'd find tests on the site which have featured both.

            #8995
  17. mechengineer10 archived

    Really enjoyed reading this tyre test. Unfortunately, some of the newer tread patterns (EGP 2 and PC6) are currently unavailable in the 205/55 R16 size in my market. How do their predecessors (EGP and PC5) compare with newer, slightly more expensive tread patterns that are available, such as the T005 and Primacy 4?

    #8984
    1. TyreReviews mechengineer10 archived

      The T005 is now old news too, the Turanza 6 is on the market! Actually so is the Primacy 4 as the + was tested here.

      The PC5 is very old now, the PC6 was on the market for a long time and the PC7 is now here. If I recall the EGP2 was a bit of a step in wet grip and RR.

      What market are you in?

      #8985
      1. mechengineer10 TyreReviews archived

        New Zealand. The premium manufacturers tend to offer Asian market tread patterns for the most part. These are tyres for which there are many special deals/discounts, but the absence of test data for these tyres makes purchasing quite difficult. Of the tyres I mentioned, do you think either the Primacy 4 or T005 would be the best choice, as the newer (read: less old) tyres?

        #8987
        1. TyreReviews mechengineer10 archived

          I would take the Primacy 4 if the price is similar. The T005 is a great tyre and offers better grip, but doesn't last as long.

          #8988
  18. Ivy311 archived

    First of all I would like to thank you for the comments you do on the comfort levels of the tyres. I am very grateful for that as other tyre testers do little to none on that.

    Therefore the Conti might be a little bit too uncomfortable and noisy for me and, according to your test, the Pirelli seems to have the best blend of comfort and noise levels on the one hand and steering characterics on the other.

    I would like to have two questions on that, as other tests of the Pirelli had rather mixed and not too positive results:

    You are talking about a significant update of the Pirelli. Do you have any information by when this update was done (ideally DOT code) in the tested tyre size?

    And: how do you make sure that you don't get "selected" tyres for testing?

    For those who are interested in experiences on the Michelin PS4 in 205/55R16 I would like to do some comments:

    I tried them some time ago because they were promising to have the best handling performance in 205/55R16 you could buy at this point of time.

    I found that the grip levels in dry and wet conditions were really great but I was a bit disapointed by the on center steering characterictics: response, precision and force build up were rather average than sporty.

    Compared to other UHP tyres in other sizes they are told to be relatively comfortable according to tests I have read, but in 205/55R16 compared to previous HP tyres I found them to be hard. I am talking about the non XL version.

    #8959
    1. TyreReviews Ivy311 archived

      If you were disappointed with the PS4 in 16" you might be disappointed with the Pirelli, which would lean me towards the Conti.

      To answer you questions, I don't have a DOT cut off, sorry, Pirelli should be able to give you one though, and we often buy tyres from market, or when we don't we either randomly test them against bought tyres or if the performance seems too good to be true, we test them.

      Cheating certainly used to be a thing in testing but now the testers are pretty good at keeping on top of it so no one tries.

      #8967
      1. Ivy311 TyreReviews archived

        Thanks for your recommendiation. Even if you have not done a direct comparison, would you expect the CPC7 to have a softer impact harshness than the PS4 from your, concerning both tyres, experienced point of view?

        #8971
        1. TyreReviews Ivy311 archived

          I think they'd be pretty similar.

          #8975
          1. Luther Crow TyreReviews archived

            Do you think it is pretty impossible to find something better in 205/55 or 225/50 R16 91W sizes then Pilot Sport 4? My car (bmw e46) with everything fresh and tight feels numb with PS4, yes the grip is crazy, and it's stable at high speeds, but the steering is just not there.

            There is Michelin Primacy 4 for BMW, but I believe non-bmwM homologated tyres not for fun? There is primacy 5, still it is more about ev, mileage, comfort... Maybe PS4 with heavier index 94Y instead of 91W would be better?

            There are also Porsche homologated dated tyres: Pilot Exalto 2 (PE2) and Pzero Rosso Asimmetrico. My car is 100-150 kg heavier than those Porsches.

            Some say Dunlop SportMaxx RT 1 is not bad or Turanza 005 for BMW, but no friends with those tyres, only 10-year old stories from them.

            Thanks for any advice, even if it is "sorry buy 17 inch wheels mate".

            #9977
        2. Luther Crow Ivy311 archived

          Did you found something better than PS4?

          #9975
          1. Ivy311 Luther Crow archived

            At this time I was looking for a more comfort biased tyre and didn't know, if to choose CPC7 or Pirelli P7 C2. Finally I ended up with a Toyo Proxes Comfort. According to a couple of tests its latest spec seemed to be a real step ahead, whereas Toyos usually show a rather mediocre performance. The outcome was a really comfortable tyre with a better on centre feel than the PS4 but of course not the same maximum level of grip in the dry and in the wet. For my needs it was the right choice.

            #9976
            1. Luther Crow Ivy311 archived

              Thanks a lot. They don't do in my size, I need W speed rating or higher according to local law, because my car has 242 max speed...

              #9981
  19. George archived

    Pirelli isn’t Italian, it’s owned by Chemchina, Chinese company obviously.

    #8951
    1. TyreReviews George archived

      Imagine if Chemchina wasn't Chinese lol.

      Fortunately their new Chinese overlords bought them nearly entirely for the truck tyre business, so Pirelli PCR is still run from Italy :)

      #8952
  20. Potorac Paul archived

    Have you tried the Bridgestone Turanza 6 or Continental UltraContact ? How are they regarding to the Continental PremiumContact 7 ?

    What would you choose between Continental UltraContact, PremiumContact 7 and Bridgestone Turanza 6 ?
    The car in question is a SUV with 4WD ( 4x4 ), dimension in discussion 215/60/R17. Price is not a problem.

    #8870
    1. TyreReviews Potorac Paul archived

      I've not tried either, but I believe both have been in tests which can be found on this site :) UC7 and PC7 were both in the ADAC this year.

      #8871
  21. 930 Engineering archived

    The Michelin PS4 deserves joining a test in 205/55 R16. Yes, it's actually available in this size. As well as in 225/50 R16. Classic Porsche sizes indeed! Anyway I bet the PS4 performs MUCH better compared to the Primacy.

    #8866
    1. Luther Crow 930 Engineering archived

      Is it your own experience? My car has rather dead steering with 205/55-16 91Y PS4. This is why I actually thought to fit Porsche homologated dated tyres like Pilot Exalto 2 (PE2) and Pzero Rosso Asimmetrico for my BMW.

      #9978
  22. PaulF archived

    What was the outside temperature for this test?

    #8857
    1. TyreReviews PaulF archived

      It should be in the video charts, from memory around 10-14c air. It was tested in October 2022.

      #8865
  23. Jan archived

    More interesting and attractive could be Premium7 against Asy6, evo3, Pilot5.....Not against eco and touring tires. They are considered as touring, but they should be not.

    #8815
    1. TyreReviews Jan archived

      I'll be doing that in may

      #8822
  24. Bibbi archived

    Seems most tyres are pretty good overall. I want to maximize internal comfort & noise for my cars, especially rough asfalt in Sweden (Lexus IS 250 and Volvo XC70 both 18")
    Is the Pirelli P7 or Primacy 4+ best? How come not all premium tyres have acoustic foam?

    #8814
    1. TyreReviews Bibbi archived

      Likely cost and demand for the foam. I've not really tested these in 18" so would be guessing in your size, hopefully there's other tests on the site

      #8821
  25. JL archived

    Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun fared better in your own aquaplaning test (above Goodyear) than ADAC's (below Goodyear) even if both test's had same tyre size 205/55/16?

    Falken was 33rd straight 19th curved ADAC's 50 tyre test.

    Falken 2nd straight 2nd curved TyreReviews 13 tyre test.

    #8805
    1. TyreReviews JL archived

      Good observation! I'd need to know ADAC test conditions, but water depth, tyre pressure and vehicle weight can all play parts in aquaplaning performance.

      #8810
      1. Luther TyreReviews archived

        Another anomaly with ZE310 is Subj comfort which is most important for me:
        2020 - last place
        2023 - first place

        https://www.tyrereviews.com...

        It makes difficult choice for me and my size 195/65/r15 because im hunting for low noise and comfort. Look like primacy 4 is the safest play. Risky ones are BFGoodrich, Falken SN110

        thank you for job

        #8837
        1. TyreReviews Luther archived

          I'm pretty confident the 310 is a comfortable tyre, especially in the size you're looking for.

          #8840
          1. Luther TyreReviews archived

            Thanks a lot, especially for this platform! But considering my car is a cabrio from 1995 and it tends to rattle and shake on bumps plus wind noise...every small point is important, now I close my eyes on every bump with all-seasoned kumho. Problem with the 310 is poor rolling resistance, no sense saving some money and finally kill our planet with emissions of my old Merc.

            Since price and expected mileage from tyre plays no role I decided to go with Primacy 4. `And again as always found some obstacles so I continue to geek.

            I know it is super subjective but can you comment about these two (looks like they are the most comfortable and quiet, yet good performers x all-rounders on the market):
            2022 ViBilagare Eco vs Normal Tyre Test:
            "Primacy 4 - Furthermore, the road noise is sensitive to the surface with higher noise on rough asphalt."
            Meanwhile Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2: "Comfort is high with low road noise on rough roads."

            P.S. There are 3 different Primacy 4s in size 195/65/15 91h with very different EU Stickers... Normal, S1, S2. Not much info about that mystery so I asked Michelin support and it is actually a real mystery...

            "Dear Luther,

            The S1 and S2 markings are markings developed in partnership with different car manufacturers to meet their requirements in a very precise manner.

            A vehicle, equipped with tyres with this marking, will have certain performance improvements.

            As the subject is confidential, we cannot provide any further details on the design developments of the models concerned."

            #8847
            1. TyreReviews Luther archived

              I believe the S oe marking is sometimes used for OE tyres for a OE without their own marking. Thoroughly confusing. If that was the Michelin reply stick with aftermarket.

              #8848
              1. Luther TyreReviews archived

                Thanks again! It’s a great place to discuss with you and other tyre enthusiasts all important nuances.

                Can you clear a little bit about rolling resistance? For example falken 310 vs toyo comfort. 8,7 vs 7,7 kg per t. If the car weight 2000kg and equipped with Falkens, is it the same if the same car equipped with Toyo and 2kg dog in the car? Just it?

                Thanks

                #8894
                1. TyreReviews Luther archived

                  No, the kg/t is a measure of the drag of the tyre, it would be hard to compare to a load value but it would certainly be much more than a 2kg dog over the life of the tyre.

                  #8903
            2. kayman Luther archived

              Kia CEEDs have S2 version from factory R16 or R17. But not all, mine has R16 with hankooks. R18 were Pilot Sport 4 Y XL. At this moment, just R17 Primacy 4 S2 I think until the end of ceed this year..
              Those S2 has high noise and probably worse on wet according to what I read on kia forums. The needed low fuel consumption because of eu limits on co2 - that I have from the seller. I do not recommend S2 then, sorry I am late, but maybe someone will be interested in.

              #10020
  26. Dan Syd archived

    I wonder what tyres are better on wet Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6 or Continental PremiumContact 7 this is different tyre class but both are on 1st place im not much of a performance driver with my passat alltrack but im always looking for best option, my main expectations are overall wet performance, noise, comfort of driving

    #8770
      1. Dan Syd TyreReviews archived

        thank you very much its my favorite tyre test site and YouTube channel, than you for all your work and help with my problem :)

        #8782
  27. Richard L Y archived

    For the Goodyear EFGP2, under the 'O' you states: "and had excellent aquaplaning resistance"- however that doesn't seem consistent with the rating numbers given, and various reviews which state aquaplaning isn't 'excellent'!? So I'm not understanding that comment at all?

    #8706
    1. TyreReviews Richard L Y archived

      Great point well made, not sure how that ended up in there. Now deleted.

      #8708
  28. Christoffel archived

    And another question: my friends know that I'm a tyre geek, so they ask my advice when they need new tyres. They generally are not interested in things like sporty driving. They are interested in costs and safety. I drive on Continental PC6 myself. I love them. I'm happy to see that the PC7 got even better and I would certainly buy the them if I would need new tyres. But in my experience the PC6 perform poorly concerning wear, aquaplaning resistance and comfort. I don't know if there is significant improvement for the PC7 at these domains, so I'll stay a bit reluctant to advise them to people who are not interested in driving pleasure. I tend to advise the Goodyear EG2 because it seems to me that it combines the best TCO (purchase price, wear, fuel consumption) with a safe road behaviour (thus my question below). However, since most of my friends don't want to invest in a set of winter tyres but do keep on driving in our (mild) winter conditions on their summer tyres, I try to steer them towards allseasons. Wouldn't it be possible to include a summer biased allseason tyre in tests like these? I suspect that a tyre like the Vredestein Quatrac would end up quite high in the ranking above. Or wouldn't it?

    #8700
  29. Christoffel archived

    Thanks for another interesting test! One thing puzzles me: in some tests the Goodyear EG2 is clearly downgraded because of its driving characteristics (diffuse, delayed steering). In these tests it is called somewhat unsafe when handled on the limit (evasive maneuvers). In other tests (same size, load- and speed index) there is no mention at all of this (except for your remark during the wet handling test). What could the explanation be for this? Is the production quality of Goodyear not very stable? I would find that difficult to believe for such a premium manufacturer.

    #8697
    1. TyreReviews Christoffel archived

      No, definitely not the production quality of Goodyear. It might be that some testers really look for that, I did high speed lane changes with all the tyres and the goodyear was fine. Maybe on a RWD platform or a heavier car it might be different due to the soft sidewalls rolling the rear more.

      #8711
      1. Christoffel TyreReviews archived

        Yes, I saw your HS lane changes in the video. That's reassuring. If you don't have complaints after that, I'm sure that the tyres do ok.
        Last summer, I did a 3.000 km trip to the Italian mountains with a BMW 3-series with the Goodyear EG2 on it.

        Since I had passengers with me, I didn't explore the limits, but for the swift & smooth driving I had, the EG2's were perfect companions. And I found the car very economical with fuel.

        #8794
  30. Slobodan archived

    Yes, just ignore it. Unless you want the same tyre as the OEM one. Personally, I would not want it, since most OEM spec tyres have worse performance (worse safety) in favour of lower rolling resistance (lower fuel consumption).

    #8695
  31. Stropdas archived

    Just buy the right size/speed rating you need without looking for something like MO of whatever the car manufacturer makes of it. That MO could mean that it is a different tyre than the regular one that is beeing tested because of different ingredients. I see no point for that

    #8685
  32. Tom Hummel archived

    Nothing new under the sun here. Michelin Primacy is safe and comfortable and not on the sporty side like Pirelli and Conti.
    But Mich has other more sporty tires.
    As long as we are driving in traffic and not on a racing track, wet braking distance is crucial and so are also the wet handling, wet braking and aqua planing on USED tires.
    Durability is important for total economy but tire wear is unfortunately not measured here and neither is thread depth. I've read before that some tires only have 7mm as new. I guess that makes the tire better under testing conditions for dry braking and dry handling.

    #8684
    1. David Foster-Key Tom Hummel archived

      I agree with you Tom, until accurate wear testing becomes normal I would always go for a Michelin tyre as they tend to last longer than most other brands and they’re the only brand that has specifically designed the tyre to minimise performance degradation as it wears.

      Personally, this focus is appreciated as a differentiator from other brands and has earned my loyalty.

      #8748
      1. TyreReviews David Foster-Key archived

        I'd check out some of the other tests on the site now. Goodyear and Conti have caught up, and in the case of the PS5 / Asym 6 Goodyear seems to have the edge! I'll be wear testing with a convoy road test this year to finally find out.

        #8754
  33. Hotzigetty archived

    Would the PC7 be an okay replacement for a Michelin ps3 (235/40 r18, focus mk4 St line)? Kind of confusing coz until now, the pc6 was tested against the pilot sports, etc.

    #8678
    1. TyreReviews Hotzigetty archived

      Certainly would be. It replaces the PC6 so still tests against those in 18"

      #8679
  34. e1 archived

    I have T005 on my 2022 car and can confirm the very low rolling resistance of those tyres. If I'm driving economically, I'm able to drive longer trips with average consumption around 5-5,5 liters / 100 km (43-47 mpg) with a 2.0 liter petrol engine car with weight over 1,7 tons (ca. 3750 lbs). After I swiched for Hankook Kinergy K2S all season tyres for "winter", the economical driving consumption got up by 0,2-0,3 liters instantly, and when I'm in hurry, it's probably much more.

    #8677
    1. TyreReviews e1 archived

      Glad they're working for you :)

      #8680
  35. Stropdas archived

    Nice review. I was surprised the new Bridgestone Turanza 6 is not included in this test. I'm waiting for a good test since the press release a few months ago. The T005 is allready a few years old and the successor is available for consumers, but unfortunately not in this tyre size which would explain it's older brother fighting for the family honor. A third place overall for this tyre is also a very nice achievement. With the improvements mentioned in the press release it seems strange not to bring this tyre in this size on the market.

    #8675
    1. TyreReviews Stropdas archived

      Due to when we tested (October last year) the T6 wasn't available, I certainly tried. Hopefully there will be some tests popping up on the site soon.

      #8676
  36. Pedro Neves archived

    Congratulations for one more massive test!
    Why was the Continental your worst subjective dry handling tyre? And the subjective wet handling results are a bit awkward (they don't match your comments). Were those just some mistakes you made while introducing data?
    Anyway, extrapolating from your previous 205/55 R16 summer tyre test, back in 2020, I believe it's fair to extrapolate and say that, compared to the PremiumContact 6, the PremiumContact 7 gained of bit of dry braking (if we ignore Bridgestone's results) and some reasonable dry handling performance; in wet braking lost terrain for some but gained for others, and certainly got a lot more wet handling performance (even subjectively, apparently). It just seems to be noisier than the PC6. I just wonder how much more or less road feedback do I get from the PC7 compared to the PC6.
    It was just a pity that you didn't test the Michelin Pilot Sport 4! It would be the world's first test in this size, and a great opportunity to compare the two best tyres ever made in the most popular size, and not just for track days!... Keep up with the good work!

    #8668
    1. TyreReviews Pedro Neves archived

      The site was having a moment with maths, it's now fixed :)

      I think if we'd compared the PC6 to PC7 directly it would have pretty big gains in the wet overall, small gain in comfort and probably a little drop in dry handling.

      #8669
      1. Pedro Neves TyreReviews archived

        Exactly what I needed to know for my next tyre purchase, within a few months! Thanks a lot!

        #8671
          1. Pedro Neves TyreReviews archived

            I believe I will still pick the PC6, but I' ll wait for a few more tests to come up, in the meantime. Dry handling is of the essence for me. Strangely enough, where I live, the PC6 is 10€ more expensive than the PC7 and it has been going like this since the PC7's debut.

            #8674
  37. Googyi archived

    Small typo in the 3rd place text:
    "where is was pretty average"

    #8664
    1. TyreReviews Googyi archived

      Thank you :) English isn't my strong point.

      #8667
  38. Christoph Thumerer archived

    Hi. Thank you for the fantastic Test. Can you maybe Test the Best of Ultra High Performance vs the best of Touring Tires in cool and hot conditions (5-10c and 30-40c).

    Michelin PS 5 and Primacy 4+
    Goodyear AS6 and EffGripP 2
    Bridgestone Potenza 4 and T005
    Pirelli P Zero (Pz4) and cinturato p7
    Continental sport contact 7 and premium contact 7

    #8663
  39. 4cvg archived

    Care to expand on the low subjective handling scores of the PC7? (A surprise given your remarks in the video.)

    #8662
    1. TyreReviews 4cvg archived

      The website seems to be having a moment with maths, if you look at the overview table it's correct: https://www.tyrereviews.com...

      I'll work on a fix, thanks for pointing it out.

      #8665
    2. TyreReviews 4cvg archived

      Should be fixed now :)

      #8670