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2021 Auto Bild All Season Tyre Test

Jonathan Benson
Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson
13 min read Updated
Below are all the data points for the 2021 Auto Bild All Season Tyre Test, displaying how each tyre performed across all test categories. The spider chart below provides a complete overview of performance, where one hundred percent represents the best performance in each category. The larger the area covered by each tyre's plot, the better its overall performance.
How to read these charts: For each test category, data is presented relative to the best performing tire. The direction indicates whether lower or higher values are better - pay close attention to this when interpreting results.

Performance Overview

This radar chart shows relative performance across all test categories, with 100% representing the best performance in each category. Reference tires may have gaps where data is not available.

Nexen N Blue 4 Season
Continental AllSeasonContact
Reference Summer
Reference Winter
Hankook Kinergy 4S2
Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
Viking FourTech
Vredestein Quatrac Pro
Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
Kumho Solus 4S HA32
Dunlop Sport All Season
Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
Nokian SeasonProof
Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
Michelin CrossClimate 2

Quick Navigation

Dry Performance Overview

Dry Braking (M)

Spread: 6.90 M (18.5%) | Avg: 41.32 M

Dry braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Reference Summer with a result of 37.3 M. The difference between best and worst was 15.6%.
  1. Reference Summer
    37.3 M
  2. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    37.6 M
  3. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    38.4 M
  4. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    40.2 M
  5. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    40.3 M
  6. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    41.4 M
  7. Nokian SeasonProof
    41.4 M
  8. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    41.5 M
  9. Dunlop Sport All Season
    41.7 M
  10. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    41.9 M
  11. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    42 M
  12. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    42 M
  13. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    42.2 M
  14. Continental AllSeasonContact
    42.3 M
  15. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    42.4 M
  16. Viking FourTech
    43.5 M
  17. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    43.5 M
  18. Reference Winter
    44.2 M

Dry Handling (Km/H)

Spread: 5.60 Km/H (6%) | Avg: 89.92 Km/H

Dry Handling Average Speed (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Reference Summer with a result of 92.8 Km/H. The difference between best and worst was 6%.
  1. Reference Summer
    92.8 Km/H
  2. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    91.1 Km/H
  3. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    90.8 Km/H
  4. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    90.8 Km/H
  5. Dunlop Sport All Season
    90.5 Km/H
  6. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    90.3 Km/H
  7. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    90.2 Km/H
  8. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    90.2 Km/H
  9. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    90 Km/H
  10. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    89.9 Km/H
  11. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    89.9 Km/H
  12. Continental AllSeasonContact
    89.6 Km/H
  13. Viking FourTech
    89.5 Km/H
  14. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    89.4 Km/H
  15. Nokian SeasonProof
    89 Km/H
  16. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    88.9 Km/H
  17. Reference Winter
    88.4 Km/H
  18. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    87.2 Km/H

Wet Performance Overview

Wet Braking (M)

Spread: 6.10 M (12.2%) | Avg: 52.81 M

Wet braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Reference Summer with a result of 49.9 M. The difference between best and worst was 10.9%.
  1. Reference Summer
    49.9 M
  2. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    50 M
  3. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    50.7 M
  4. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    50.8 M
  5. Dunlop Sport All Season
    51.4 M
  6. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    52.3 M
  7. Viking FourTech
    52.6 M
  8. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    52.9 M
  9. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    52.9 M
  10. Continental AllSeasonContact
    53 M
  11. Reference Winter
    53.4 M
  12. Nokian SeasonProof
    53.5 M
  13. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    53.9 M
  14. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    54 M
  15. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    54.1 M
  16. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    54.4 M
  17. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    54.7 M
  18. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    56 M

Wet Handling (Km/H)

Spread: 9.30 Km/H (11.6%) | Avg: 73.81 Km/H

Wet Handling Average Speed (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Reference Summer with a result of 79.9 Km/H. The difference between best and worst was 11.6%.
  1. Reference Summer
    79.9 Km/H
  2. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    77.3 Km/H
  3. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    75.7 Km/H
  4. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    75.1 Km/H
  5. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    74.9 Km/H
  6. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    74.7 Km/H
  7. Dunlop Sport All Season
    74.5 Km/H
  8. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    74.2 Km/H
  9. Continental AllSeasonContact
    73.6 Km/H
  10. Reference Winter
    73 Km/H
  11. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    72.9 Km/H
  12. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    72.7 Km/H
  13. Viking FourTech
    72.6 Km/H
  14. Nokian SeasonProof
    72.3 Km/H
  15. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    72.3 Km/H
  16. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    71.3 Km/H
  17. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    70.9 Km/H
  18. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    70.6 Km/H

Wet Circle (s)

Spread: 1.63 s (14%) | Avg: 12.88 s

Wet Circle Lap Time in seconds (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Reference Summer with a result of 11.67 s. The difference between best and worst was 12.3%.
  1. Reference Summer
    11.67 s
  2. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    12.41 s
  3. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    12.66 s
  4. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    12.77 s
  5. Continental AllSeasonContact
    12.81 s
  6. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    12.81 s
  7. Dunlop Sport All Season
    12.87 s
  8. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    12.89 s
  9. Nokian SeasonProof
    12.9 s
  10. Reference Winter
    12.95 s
  11. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    12.98 s
  12. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    13.08 s
  13. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    13.09 s
  14. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    13.09 s
  15. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    13.11 s
  16. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    13.19 s
  17. Viking FourTech
    13.29 s
  18. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    13.3 s

Straight Aqua (Km/H)

Spread: 12.10 Km/H (12.5%) | Avg: 91.36 Km/H

Float Speed in Km/H (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Reference Summer with a result of 97.1 Km/H. The difference between best and worst was 12.5%.
  1. Reference Summer
    97.1 Km/H
  2. Dunlop Sport All Season
    94.9 Km/H
  3. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    93.9 Km/H
  4. Continental AllSeasonContact
    93.3 Km/H
  5. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    93.1 Km/H
  6. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    92.4 Km/H
  7. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    91.6 Km/H
  8. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    91.5 Km/H
  9. Viking FourTech
    91.3 Km/H
  10. Reference Winter
    91 Km/H
  11. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    90.7 Km/H
  12. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    90.6 Km/H
  13. Nokian SeasonProof
    90.5 Km/H
  14. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    90.4 Km/H
  15. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    89.8 Km/H
  16. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    88.7 Km/H
  17. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    88.6 Km/H
  18. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    85 Km/H

Curved Aquaplaning (m/sec2)

Spread: 1.25 m/sec2 (39.3%) | Avg: 2.59 m/sec2

Remaining lateral acceleration (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Reference Summer with a result of 3.18 m/sec2. The difference between best and worst was 39.3%.
  1. Reference Summer
    3.18 m/sec2
  2. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    3.05 m/sec2
  3. Dunlop Sport All Season
    3.05 m/sec2
  4. Viking FourTech
    2.99 m/sec2
  5. Nokian SeasonProof
    2.7 m/sec2
  6. Continental AllSeasonContact
    2.68 m/sec2
  7. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    2.65 m/sec2
  8. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    2.62 m/sec2
  9. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    2.54 m/sec2
  10. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    2.52 m/sec2
  11. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    2.52 m/sec2
  12. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    2.49 m/sec2
  13. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    2.44 m/sec2
  14. Reference Winter
    2.4 m/sec2
  15. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    2.36 m/sec2
  16. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    2.28 m/sec2
  17. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    2.2 m/sec2
  18. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    1.93 m/sec2

Snow Performance Overview

Snow Braking (M)

Spread: 31.30 M (122.3%) | Avg: 28.94 M

Snow braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Nokian SeasonProof with a result of 25.6 M. The difference between best and worst was 55%.
  1. Nokian SeasonProof
    25.6 M
  2. Reference Winter
    25.8 M
  3. Continental AllSeasonContact
    26.1 M
  4. Viking FourTech
    26.8 M
  5. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    26.9 M
  6. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    27 M
  7. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    27 M
  8. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    27.1 M
  9. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    27.2 M
  10. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    27.2 M
  11. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    27.3 M
  12. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    27.4 M
  13. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    27.6 M
  14. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    28 M
  15. Dunlop Sport All Season
    28.2 M
  16. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    28.5 M
  17. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    30.4 M
  18. Reference Summer
    56.9 M

Snow Traction (N)

Spread: 2023.00 N (67.4%) | Avg: 2663.94 N

Pulling Force in Newtons (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Nokian SeasonProof with a result of 3003 N. The difference between best and worst was 67.4%.
  1. Nokian SeasonProof
    3003 N
  2. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    2995 N
  3. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    2916 N
  4. Reference Winter
    2875 N
  5. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    2867 N
  6. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    2832 N
  7. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    2818 N
  8. Dunlop Sport All Season
    2818 N
  9. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    2805 N
  10. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    2783 N
  11. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    2715 N
  12. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    2691 N
  13. Continental AllSeasonContact
    2666 N
  14. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    2631 N
  15. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    2563 N
  16. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    2503 N
  17. Viking FourTech
    2490 N
  18. Reference Summer
    980 N

Snow Handling (Km/H)

Spread: 2.30 Km/H (5.5%) | Avg: 40.75 Km/H

Snow handling average speed (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Nokian SeasonProof with a result of 41.9 Km/H. The difference between best and worst was 5.5%.
  1. Nokian SeasonProof
    41.9 Km/H
  2. Reference Winter
    41.7 Km/H
  3. Continental AllSeasonContact
    41.3 Km/H
  4. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    41.3 Km/H
  5. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    41.3 Km/H
  6. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    41.2 Km/H
  7. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    41 Km/H
  8. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    40.8 Km/H
  9. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    40.8 Km/H
  10. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    40.6 Km/H
  11. Viking FourTech
    40.6 Km/H
  12. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    40.5 Km/H
  13. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    40.3 Km/H
  14. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    40.2 Km/H
  15. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    39.9 Km/H
  16. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    39.7 Km/H
  17. Dunlop Sport All Season
    39.6 Km/H

Comfort Performance Overview

Noise (dB)

Spread: 2.40 dB (3.4%) | Avg: 72.19 dB

External noise in dB (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2 with a result of 71.1 dB. The difference between best and worst was 3.3%.
  1. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    71.1 dB
  2. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    71.4 dB
  3. Nokian SeasonProof
    71.5 dB
  4. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    71.6 dB
  5. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    71.6 dB
  6. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    71.9 dB
  7. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    71.9 dB
  8. Reference Summer
    72 dB
  9. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    72 dB
  10. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    72.1 dB
  11. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    72.3 dB
  12. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    72.5 dB
  13. Viking FourTech
    72.5 dB
  14. Continental AllSeasonContact
    72.6 dB
  15. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    72.6 dB
  16. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    73.1 dB
  17. Dunlop Sport All Season
    73.3 dB
  18. Reference Winter
    73.5 dB

Value Performance Overview

Wear (KM)

Spread: 23850.00 KM (43.7%) | Avg: 42138.06 KM

Predicted tread life in KM (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Kumho Solus 4S HA32 with a result of 54524 KM. The difference between best and worst was 43.7%.
  1. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    54524 KM
  2. Nokian SeasonProof
    51326 KM
  3. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    50455 KM
  4. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    46779 KM
  5. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    46012 KM
  6. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    44821 KM
  7. Continental AllSeasonContact
    43549 KM
  8. Viking FourTech
    42246 KM
  9. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    40407 KM
  10. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    40063 KM
  11. Dunlop Sport All Season
    39164 KM
  12. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    38316 KM
  13. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    36578 KM
  14. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    34695 KM
  15. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    34600 KM
  16. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    30674 KM

Value (Price/1000)

Spread: 8.63 Price/1000 (117.6%) | Avg: 11.80 Price/1000

Euros/1000km based on cost/wear (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Kumho Solus 4S HA32 with a result of 7.34 Price/1000. The difference between best and worst was 54%.
  1. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    7.34 Price/1000
  2. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    8.23 Price/1000
  3. Nokian SeasonProof
    9.16 Price/1000
  4. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    9.45 Price/1000
  5. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    10.31 Price/1000
  6. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    10.37 Price/1000
  7. Viking FourTech
    10.89 Price/1000
  8. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    11 Price/1000
  9. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    12.83 Price/1000
  10. Dunlop Sport All Season
    13.02 Price/1000
  11. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    13.1 Price/1000
  12. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    13.58 Price/1000
  13. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    13.67 Price/1000
  14. Continental AllSeasonContact
    14.12 Price/1000
  15. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    15.72 Price/1000
  16. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    15.97 Price/1000

Price

Spread: 250.00 (64.9%) | Avg: 484.69

Price in local currency (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Nexen N Blue 4 Season. The difference between best and worst was 39.4%.
  1. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    385
  2. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    395
  3. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    400
  4. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    435
  5. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    445
  6. Viking FourTech
    460
  7. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    465
  8. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    470
  9. Nokian SeasonProof
    470
  10. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    490
  11. Dunlop Sport All Season
    500
  12. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    510
  13. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    525
  14. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    555
  15. Continental AllSeasonContact
    615
  16. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    635

Rolling Resistance (kg / t)

Spread: 2.31 kg / t (32.4%) | Avg: 8.24 kg / t

Rolling resistance in kg t (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Viking FourTech with a result of 7.13 kg / t. The difference between best and worst was 24.5%.
  1. Viking FourTech
    7.13 kg / t
  2. Michelin CrossClimate 2
    7.17 kg / t
  3. Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2
    7.51 kg / t
  4. Dunlop Sport All Season
    7.62 kg / t
  5. Reference Summer
    7.64 kg / t
  6. Continental AllSeasonContact
    7.66 kg / t
  7. Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO
    7.99 kg / t
  8. Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02
    8.13 kg / t
  9. Kumho Solus 4S HA32
    8.2 kg / t
  10. Hankook Kinergy 4S2
    8.24 kg / t
  11. Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
    8.26 kg / t
  12. Nokian SeasonProof
    8.57 kg / t
  13. Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3
    8.6 kg / t
  14. Nexen N Blue 4 Season
    8.79 kg / t
  15. Giti GitiAllSeason AS1
    8.81 kg / t
  16. Vredestein Quatrac Pro
    9.19 kg / t
  17. Reference Winter
    9.33 kg / t
  18. Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210
    9.44 kg / t

Overall Findings

Based on the weighted scoring from all tests, here are the overall results:

Position Tyre Score
Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3 0%
2 Continental AllSeasonContact 0%
3 Hankook Kinergy 4S2 0%
4 Vredestein Quatrac Pro 0%
5 Falken EUROALL SEASON AS210 0%
6 Nokian SeasonProof 0%
7 Michelin CrossClimate 2 0%
8 Maxxis Premitra All Season AP3 0%
9 Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO 0%
10 Dunlop Sport All Season 0%
11 Viking FourTech 0%
12 Kumho Solus 4S HA32 0%
13 Firestone MultiSeason Gen 02 0%
14 Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF2 0%
15 Nexen N Blue 4 Season 0%
16 Giti GitiAllSeason AS1 0%
17 Reference Summer 0%
18 Reference Winter 0%

Discussion

52 comments
  1. Jozef archived

    Hi Jonathan. I much appreciate your quantified approach.
    Question: Auto Bild shows the traction force in snow in Newton. But what does it mean, since traction depends of the weight on the tyre. The CC2 has 3500N in the all season SUV test, but 'only' 3000N in the standard all season test. Why the difference? Can values between two tests be compared?
    Thanks for the help.

    #8184
    1. TyreReviews Jozef archived

      Differences in tyre sizes, vehicle weight, snow type, snow temperature etc will affect this so its only really useful comparing in the same tests

      #8185
      1. Jozef TyreReviews archived

        Hallo Jonathan
        I understand. Thanks for the speedy reply.
        I saw that Auto Bild Allrad will publish a new all season test in September.

        #8186
        1. TyreReviews Jozef archived

          There will be lots of new tests around the start I'd September

          #8187
  2. Alan archived

    Is there any reason why the Pirelli are so bad on this test, compared to the TR test?
    I was going to buy some 225/45/18's but the wet braking has put me right off.

    #8129
    1. TyreReviews Alan archived

      None that I know of, I did write a section about the differences in the article and what it could be.

      #8131
      1. Alan TyreReviews archived

        ty. For now, I'm waiting till the 2022 All Season review. IF I'm lucky, the Pirelli's will be in it again this year.
        If not, I'll be looking at what this year will bring.

        #8132
        1. TyreReviews Alan archived

          They were in our test this year, I believe the wet performance matched this test rather than our test last year.

          #8133
  3. Alex archived

    Hey all! Which all season tyre for a size 245/45/R18 you would recommend for really hot summers and moderate winters (temps at their lowest are around -5 to -10C and there's a snow for around 10-15 days total). The rest of the winter is usually dry, or with rain, and the temps are around -2 to 0 (night) to 10C. Mid May through end of August/mid September temps are usually between 25 to ~35C (during the day).

    Michelin
    Goodyear
    Pirelli
    Continental

    On my old car I was using CC+ in the similar size (225 instead of 245 now) for the last 2 years and I was soo happy with them, all year round. Now want to fit some new all seasons for the new car (Insignia Grand Sport petrol 121kw automatic and just want to make sure I make the right choice. All 4 tyres are similarly priced here (maybe 5-10 euros difference) and I'm looking for the most comfy, least noisy and with a good life span. Was definitely interested in CC2 but after reading this review I just wanted your advice if they are still the best choice.
    And finally, would you all go for 96Y standard ones or 100Y XL ones?

    Thank you!

    #7891
    1. TyreReviews Alex archived

      CC2 won my most recent test and I have them on my own car.

      #7894
      1. Alex TyreReviews archived

        Thanks for a quick reply! And yeah, I was looking at your review (and some others as well), plus my own experience from using CC+ for the last 2 years but again, this review surprised me a bit (even though they have used a different car, different tyre size, different conditions etc). And actually, I was between CC2 and Pirelli as I mainly need a good summer biased all season tyre (due to the general weather here)

        And what do you think about standard load and extra load, with either of these (96Y and 100Y)?

        #7896
        1. TyreReviews Alex archived

          I really need to test standard load vs extra load sometime, from what I understand the differences are usually small and sometimes non existent.

          #7904
          1. Alex TyreReviews archived

            Thanks! And yeah, I've heard that too. But yet again, it looks like opinions are very different from everything I've seen online and heard in person. And in my example, the size I need for CC2, actually has a bit different ratings for 96Y standard one and 100Y XL one. Its C for fuel consumption and B for wet grip (standard) and it's B in both categories for XL version. And for Pirelli SF2, I can't seem to find the standard version as it looks like there's only XL version available (maybe I'm wrong).

            #7905
            1. TyreReviews Alex archived

              Unless you're hyper focused on comfort, I'd be getting the 100Y XL CC2!

              #7906
  4. Bob archived

    Hi, have you got performance testing (dry, wet, snow etc) of all season vs winter tyres as the tyres wear out?

    Apparently all season tyres start their life soft and perform well, but then harden through life and don't do so well (in addition to having less tread).

    Any thoughts?

    #7847
    1. TyreReviews Bob archived

      That will depend on brand, as it does on any type of tyres. Some brands use a softer top layer, good brands don't.

      #7850
      1. Bob TyreReviews archived

        So pretty safe with cross climate 2?

        My winter conditions are 0 to 12 deg, maybe two to three events

        #7851
        1. TyreReviews Bob archived

          As safe as you can be (I've just tested that but no results until autumn this year)

          #7852
  5. AsturianoImparcial archived

    Hello,

    I live in Asturias, a province in the north of Spain and I want to buy the Nokian Sessionproof.

    Here in Asturias it rains most of the year. We have sea and mountains of more than 2000 meters of altitude at 70km distance between sea and mountains, although the average of the most important mountain passes where roads pass are usually around 1200-1400 meters that in winter are snowed.

    The purchase of the Nokian is fine for a person that the most he has ever driven on wet roads was 140 km/h or would you advise me to buy another model of all-season tyres other than Nokian. I mean if the understeer is sufficiently pronounced when driving with these tyres. I have 225/45 R17 tyres.

    This monday I have to call to put new ones on. I will pass my michelin crossclimatic + at the front and put these new ones on the rear.

    But I would like to know the opinion if these Nokian Sessionproof are good in wetter climates than snow. The wet weather in Asturias ranges from 3 degrees to 30 degrees centigrade between autumn, winter, spring and summer.

    Thank you very much for your reply.

    Post Data: I would like you to do a review with the new Uniroyal AllSeasonExpert 2 tyres as uniroyal say they have always been one of the best tyres in the wet. If anyone has tried them and can tell us how they perform in the wet and dry as well as on snow and ice I would appreciate it as well.

    Regards.

    #7729
    1. TyreReviews AsturianoImparcial archived

      If you look at the test results, the Nokian SeasonProof isn't usually great in the wet so I would buy a tyre that does well in the wet, if that's your priority.

      #7730
  6. CroTom archived

    Hi, many thanks for a great review. I’m thinking of mounting all-season tyres on my 7-seater (205/55/17) and this really comes in handy. At the moment, my favorites are the new Pirelli and Goodyear. I have to say that I live at the cost of Adriatic Sea with really mild weather (quite a bit of rain in the winter, though) with few short trips to middle Europe during the year.
    Basically, I am looking for a tyre that will “cover” summer conditions, mild winters and occasional encounter with the snow. It seems that most of these new all-season tyres could get the job done, but, as I said I’m leaning towards either Pirelli or Goodyear. However, during the summer, the temperatures here easily hit 35-40 C, and I have yet to see a review that covers all-season tyre behavior in this kind of heat. Plus, after a couple of months of really hot weather, what is the wear and tear on these tyres? Can I expect to be using the same set for 2.5 - 3 years (I do 15 - 20 thousand km/year), or will the tyres lose their intended characteristics after the first summer season? I’d appreciate your thoughts on the matter. Plus, based on your experience, would either Pirelli or Goodyear be suited for this kind of climate or would you recommend a possible
    third option? Obviously, the decision is mine to make, but I’m always open for suggestions. Once again, many thanks for a great review.

    #7686
    1. TyreReviews CroTom archived

      They're designed to be run all year so you won't get anything dangerous in 40c, but they won't be as good as a summer tyre.

      Snow performance drops off noticeably after 3mm on all tyres

      #7688
  7. MontyW archived

    I would be fascinated to see the results if you would include a Michelin CC2 in your summer tyre tests.

    #7678
    1. TyreReviews MontyW archived

      There's plenty of all season tests with the CC2 and a summer reference tyre which will give some some idea :) I always push to get a cc2 in anytest!

      #7683
  8. Mark archived

    Would you say Jonathan that for those of us living in England probably the optimal set up is to use one of the many fine summer tyres from May to October and an AS with the characteristics of a MCC2 or Vred Q from November to April?

    On an associated point I do wonder though whether Michelin in chasing improved snow performance haven't ever so slightly taken their eye off wet capabilities.

    #7644
    1. TyreReviews Mark archived

      I do like an all season as a winter tyre. I would also like to see better wet performance for the cc2, but it did improve over the cc+

      #7645
      1. Mark TyreReviews archived

        Thanks Jonathan. Where I'm genuinely struggling at the moment in choosing a tyre to replace my 5 year old MCCs is that none of the other AS tyres are IMHO remotely good enough in the dry compared with the CC2 never mind the summer tyre (in dry braking the CC2 is only about 6 ft worse than the MP4 which is very impressive whilst Pirelli, Goodyear and Conti are circa 14, 20 and 22ft worse respectively than the MP4 which makes them in dry conditions worse than a budget summer tyre!!!). So top marks to the CC2. However the figures suggest that the CC2 isn't great in the wet compared with the best AS tyres never mind the summer tyre (circa 20 ft worse in warm wet braking than its MP4 cousin which is pretty disappointing). I know these figures will likely reverse in sub 7C conditions but........

        I guess I'm being picky given what I'm wanting but I'm really just saying that I wish Michelin had stuck more closely to the original premise of the CC family which was a summerish tyre that could cope in the snow rather than chase winter performance. Ultimately if you need stellar snow performance e.g. in central Europe/Scandinavia/Scotland you are probably swapping for a winter tyre anyway in the cold months.

        Ho hum.

        #7648
        1. TyreReviews Mark archived

          The new CC2 is better than your current tyre in the wet, so maybe it's a simpler choice than you think

          #7650
          1. Mark TyreReviews archived

            Very fair point albeit one would and should expect improvement in performance over 5 years. Undoubtedly the CC2 will be better than the CC. My reasons for questioning the CC2 wet performance is that we have recently moved from Kent to Herefordshire/Welsh borders which is wetter which is why I am more bothered by wet performance than previously when I bought the original CCs.

            I'm actually more interested in comparing the delta between the CC2 and summer tyres than other AS tyres as the latter are generally far too winter focussed for our mild climate.

            Thus I had a go at comparing the CC2 v the P4 and it looks like on dry braking, dry handling and wet handling the CC2 is within 5-6% of the P4 which is really impressive and more than acceptable given that the P4 is an excellent summer tyre. Wear and noise is within 8-10% which is OK. Straight aqua is circa 12% better - great?. However summer wet braking is up to 13-15% worse and that is extremely disappointing.

            I guess it proves your point that you really should swap tyres every spring and autumn. However that's expensive plus you need to store the other set of wheels. It really is a fascinating subject.

            Thanks for taking the time to respond. I think I will go with the CC2s for the point you make and accept the warm wet braking result and for the fact that in the winter months the P4 will suffer performance wise compared with the CC2 anyway.

            #7653
  9. Marc Valme archived

    Two presumably well run test by two clearly world class testers ( Don't be modest your testing is legit ), with some converging and some diverging results. However since they were multiple variables changed it's hard to know why, except to speculate. I find it completely fascinating it reminds me of an organic chemistry lab in college. I am having way too much fun trying to select an optimal tire, luckily I drive a Golf R, so tyre reviews testing is spot on for me!

    #7583
    1. TyreReviews Marc Valme archived

      And you have a car that will flatter most tyres :)

      #7586
  10. Pan Marian archived

    How its possible that Goodyear in tests from 2020 225/45 was 3rd lowest noise and year after 225/50 its 10th ?

    #7461
    1. TyreReviews Pan Marian archived

      Size differences, competitors moving on, different test conditions

      #7469
  11. Mark archived

    Just to show how weighting can change results I took ABs scores and scored 40% for wet, 35% for dry, 10% for snow, 10% for wear/price/RR, 2.5% for Aqua and 2.5% for noise. On this basis Vredestein won with Michelin 2nd, Hankook 3rd and Goodyear only 5th.

    #7450
    1. TyreReviews Mark archived

      Agreed, nice example. I really want to develop a system for the site where you can pick your weighting and see the results change in real time but my javascript skills are somewhat lacking!

      #7452
      1. Mark TyreReviews archived

        As you always say, Jonathan, different people have different requirements from their tyres. Living in Herefordshire/Shropshire we don't see a lot of snow so I need a tyre that is dry/wet focussed. I don't need Nokian levels of snow performance. Rather I want a tyre that on the rare occasions we get the white stuff has the traction to get me up the many hills around here and then brake safely. A summer tyre can't do that. Hence I have the original CCs which I am about to change. If I was in Scotland that might be different. I just hope that with the new CC2 Michelin aren't giving wet performance away to boost their snow grip. The Vredestein result has given me food for thought due to its fantastic wet performance (we get a lot of rain in the Marches) but I guess the dry braking just isn't good enough.

        One additional test that might be useful is black ice. We're far more likely to see that in most of the UK than snow. On the one occasion I hit a patch of black ice I can't say the CCs felt great. They were probably better than summer tyres but it doesn't happen often enough for me to be able to compare accurately.

        #7454
        1. TyreReviews Mark archived

          Ice testing would be useful, but it's incredibly time consuming (expensive) so it doesn't often get performed for all season, or even central European winter tyre tests these days

          #7458
          1. Mark TyreReviews archived

            Aha guess there had to be a reason. Fair enough?

            #7463
  12. Mark archived

    Slightly confused by the conclusions on the Auto Bild report. Auto Bild say the Goodyear tyre has no weaknesses with convincing performance across all conditions yet it is 4.3 metres worse than the Michelin CC2 and only 9th in dry braking and 13th in dry handling which is 10.26% and 1.86% respectively worse than the CC2. Meanwhile the Michelin gets marked down for wet performance even though it is only 3.2 metres worse than the Goodyear in wet braking and is 12th in wet handling which is only 5.86% and 3.62% respectively worse than the Goodyear.

    To be over 14 feet slower to brake in dry conditions than the CC2 is not great IMHO.

    So if Michelin is being marked down for wet performance then surely Goodyear (and others) should be for dry performance

    #7449
    1. TyreReviews Mark archived

      Agreed, I thought the same when writing it up. Maybe something was lost in translation but I did double check!

      #7451
      1. Mark TyreReviews archived

        I've noticed that lots of all season tyre reviews (not yours I'm happy to say) seem to make allowances for less than stellar dry performance provided snow is really good (a good example is the 2021 AZ all season test which gives 1st place to Conti despite a very average dry performance and wet as well - 6.3M worse under cool wet braking than the best!!! All made up for by a mega snow result).

        I thought the CC2 wear results were fascinating. Michelin have always prided themselves on being near the best on wear so to be mid pack at 40K Km and 10K worse than the best premium tyre was a surprise. Doing a maximum 7K Km a year in any one of our two cars then it's not that critical for me as I would probably change every 5-6 years anyway even if the tread depth was OK but if I was doing say 20K pa in a vehicle then that might be different.

        #7455
  13. FCava archived

    what kind of tyre are the "reference"? For example there are big differences between a michelin energy, primacy and sport pilot

    #7441
    1. TyreReviews FCava archived

      Sadly Autobild didn't publish that information.

      #7446
  14. Florin Bogdan archived

    Out of all these test I just found my next winter tyres: Nokian Seasonproof. It seems to be better than the winter tyres in TR and AB tests , different cars , different conditions .
    Mr. Benson , would you please take into account a future test or more with a FWD not sporty heavy estate , I mean for us that a RWD or a lighter, smaller car won't be good enough for transportation needs ( a family won't travel in it confortably, at least mine doesn't).
    What do you say about it?

    #7423
    1. TyreReviews Florin Bogdan archived

      It's unlikely anyone will specifically use a heavy estate car for tyre testing as you generally try and appeal to the largest audience. The good news is that there's not a huge difference in weights, and there have been some tests using estate versions of cars like the Golf estate which can be found on the site, plus it wouldn't really change the ranking in a meaningful way

      #7424
  15. DM archived

    I'm interested to know how the General Altimax 365 AW will fare vs. the other All Weather tires. I would expect superior snow and ice performance as it appears the 365 AW was derived from a winter tire heritage. Any data on this new tire yet?

    #7418
    1. TyreReviews DM archived

      I've not tested this against other all weather tires, General make some good tires for the price point so I assume it will be good value, but perhaps not as good as something like a CC2

      #7420
    2. Andreas Wenzel DM archived

      Autobild tested the Altimax 365 in the qualification, it's ranked 28th from overall 32 tyres. In the qualification they are only doing a dry and wet braking test. I think some of the lower ranked like the Kleber Quadraxer 2 or Uniroyal Allseasonexpert 2 are quite good in the snow but they have a disadvantage in the dry+wet braking test and failed to qualify.

      #7421
  16. TechnoViking archived

    I was about buying the Pirelli SF2 in 225/40 R19 (front) and 255/35 R19 (rear) for a Giulia with 280BHP, but seeing these results I now have some doubts. How could these results be so different from the tests from Tyre reviews? They seem two entirely different tyres.
    Also, CC2 has similar results, way worse on wet in this test compared to the other one.

    As I would use them as winter tyres and I live in a temperate place, so dry and wet performance have more priority and temperature rarely below 0, and sporty feeling if possible. What would you suggest?

    #7410
    1. TyreReviews TechnoViking archived

      I've explained this in the article the best I can.

      #7414