With summer just around the corner, now is a great time to plan what summer tyres you'll be fitting in 2019.
There have been plenty of new summer tyres in the last 12 months, with Goodyear taking the fight directly to Michelin. Here's how the new Goodyear VS Michelin battle stacks up, and a few of the other options on the market to consider.
As with last years video, the first half is dedicated to higher performance tyres, and the second half looks at tyres with a higher priority on comfort.
This video does not cover any all season or winter tyres options, so if you feel like you might need a tyre to work year round, including in snow and ice, check out our "best tyre type for winter driving" video first.
If you have any questions or comments please feel free to ask below, or on the YouTube page!
Hi, I would be looking to switch my 265/35 245/35 on my m2 comp 19’’ rims with 285/30 265/30. Do you think it would be a good idea given a performance upgrade and also for these dimensions which performance tire would be best?
There's a video on the channel about tyre widths, there isn't a huge performance upgrade and I'm not sure how wide the alloys are, so the wider tyres might not fit properly!
Hi, I have a E92 335i coupe and am thinking of replacing the runflats. What you recommend for comfort and noise that also handle/brake well
Lots of e92 drivers switch to the Asymmetric 5
Lots of people swap to Asymmetric 5 on e92s and end up very happy
Hi, I live in Croatia, I'm driving a Mazda 3 from 2007 (195/65/15).
For the most time it's dry here, but there are times when it's heavily raining and roads are kinda oily and unpredictable.
On another car I have Nokian Weatherproof and on roads like these I feel some tire slipping when accelerating or when turning.
Winter isn't that harsh in my city, it snows sometime but not much so that shouldn't be huge problem for all season tires.
I'm mostly driving from work to home and back, daily, so that's at around 20km per working day.
Sometime I go on the countryside over the weekend, which adds an maximum of 100km.
If I go to the sea, which is once a year, that is at around 800km of highway and 400km of old roads.
In these times of covid-19 not sure how much I'll go with my car, so these number might go down a bit.
What do you guys suggest?
So far I've had Continental Premium Contact (4 years) and WinterContact (3 years) and now it's time to exchange them.
Should I go with all season tire?
Which all season tire has shown best performance in 2020.? Should I wait for new tires, if there are any? Or go with some?
Which and why?
Thanks!
If winter isn't too bad there, I'd certainly be looking at the CrossClimate, as they'll likely be the best for the rest of the year when it's dry and wet
As for the fuel consumption compared to summer tire and changing to winter tire, do you have some summary calculation which is more affordable?
Buying new summer and winter tires, changing them when it's time OR buying an all season tire and having them on a car all the time when tire becomes unusable?
Also, would you suggest to have all season tire on aluminum rims all the time? Is that OK in winter?
Do you have some guide for all season tires, some assumptions, tips, etc? :D
Also, forgot to mention, temperatures here can rise above 30-35C.
How bad is that for all-season tires? Will it impact it's performance?
There's lots of data on the website with rolling resistance testing for various tyres, check it out.
Most all season tyres will start to struggle in high temps
Hi, i happen to live in Poland and drive 2010 BMW E60 (170hp) on 225/55/16. I drive at an average of 15-20k km annually. (Oh highways I do go up till 230-240 km/h) 2 years back I got goodyear’s UG Performance tyres. Tread wear is ok but awful in winter. Even on dry road at 8+ degrees C, in city, they skid. Now I need to buy summer Tyres but again confused what to buy.. Conti 6 or TuranzaT005 has be advised by the local mech. but reviews are pretty mixed up. I’m looking for an overall stability, good grip and good traction in both rain and dry weather, acceleration and lower tread wear rate.
What would you suggest. I’d like to invest once... and looking for peace of mind.
I like the Continental PremiumContact 6, it's on my own car, but in 18".
The other popular option it the Michelin Pilot Sport 4, not sure if it's available in a 225 though
Unfortunately none of these are available in 225/55/16. I am not sure if i have any other better options as per the specs recommended by the manufacturer.
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Quick update, I just ended up buying Bridgestone TuranzaT005 ??♂️
Thanks for the update, let me know how you get on :)
I would like to obtain your (or others) opinion about what tyres should I buy next. I have an Audi A6 from 2012 and my specifications are 225/55/R17. I would like to buy touring tyres because I am not interested in sporty driving. I drive mainly in the city and outside. I would like a tyre which is good both in dry and wet conditions, since after hot summers we have a fear amount of rain. Also, since I am looking for comfort, I would pick a low noise tyre. I had the AO Pirelli Cinturato P7 which were good but I am wondering if I can buy something a little bit cheaper. I was wondering about Dunlop Sport max RT2 or Firestone Roadhawk. Of course, I am open to suggestions. Thanks.
Oh those two, I'd have the Dunlop over the Firestone, however at that price range the Falken FK510 is also a great option
Hello i am from Malaysia and driving a Mercedes C-class (w204). My front tyres sides are cracking but I am looking to change my front tyres can I get some advice on how I can go about it? I would just like to change the ones in the front.
Front Tyres: 225/45 R17
Back Tyres: 225/45 ZR17
I am also looking to change my low profile tyres back to normal ones as there are a lot of bumps and portholes in my country and low profile tyres tend to kill my suspension when i go over one of them. Anyway to go about it? What would be your recommendation?
They are both Michelin Pilot Sport Tyres.
Hi, just watched this and your latest UHP film in the M2. What would you recommend for a std E46 M3 on std 19 inch wheels? Primarily road use in the UK with maybe 1 or 2 trackdays a year. Would a PS4 be awful on track or would it's road bias make it a good choice? Oh also, when I search Michelins in these sizes they seem to all be XL, is that ok for a car like this, I don't want the ride any stiffer than it needs to be. Many Thanks
That video covers it pretty much, 4S or SuperSport
Hi, I have an Audi Allroad A6 2015 and looking to replace all 4 tyres. Have read tyre reviews including Autobild 2019 and thinking of Michelin PS4 255/45r19. However, there appears to be two options a standard option and AO option. Is there really any difference between these tyres? I assume that Autobild tested the standard (non AO) tyre. Can you advise? PS. Happy New Year to you, your colleagues and all readers
Auto Bild would test the standard (non AO) tyre. Without testing or convincing Michelin to tell us what the changes are, it would be difficult to say, but the changes are usually small.
That said, now you've asked the question, I'm not sure which version of the tyre I'd fit in this example! Probably the aftermarket version for ease of matching in the future.
Thanks for your response, I am trending to agree.
Great video! Wonder if I can get your advice? I have 19in wheels on my Kadjar and I'm not happy with the ride, bumps, road noise etc... I was looking at downsizing to 17in but I'm hoping just getting new tyres will help. Currently have 225/45R 19 INCH CONTINENTAL Contact Sport 5 on the front and right rear with a budget tyre (Hifly Vigorous) on the left rear which has the most grip left. The Contis need replacing really, especially the fronts and I've narrowed it down to two choices to replace all 4.
Falkens Azenis FK510 (£536 fitted.) and Dunlop SP Sport Maxx RT (£574.80 fitted)
Any suggestions on the best to go for with mainly ride noise and road comfort in mind or should i look at one of your other recommendations? Many thanks in advance.
Hi - I have a Mercedes SLS, 265 35 19 front and 295 30 20 rears, currently on Dunlop SportMaxx. I’m thinking of switching to Michelin (not sure whether Pilot Sport 4S or other?), or possibly Ultrac Vorti as I’ve had personal recommendations of Vredesteins from friends. Any thoughts/advice would be welcome!
http://www.tyrereviews.co.u... :)
I’ve seem the video of course, which covers Michelin Pilot 4S tyres. However, having asked Michelin which tyres they recommend for the SLS they specifically say Pilot Super Sport. They suggest they have been particularly tested for Mercedes for the SLS and can be bought marked “MO” to show this. However, as I understand it the Pilot Super Sport was superceded by the Pilot Sport 4. Then perhaps the 4S came along. Quite possibly the reason Michelin are recommending the Super Sport is that the 4S tyres simply hadn’t been produced when they tested for the SLS (it’s now 7+ years old), and they haven’t done a further test, and given the age and comparative rarity of the car they’re unlikely to do one. So I guess my question really is, do you think the Pilot Super Sport got substantially improved upon by more recent Michelin tyres, and if so which specific ones would you recommend? Thanks RJ
The PSS was replaced by the PS4S, not the PS4! The PSS is a better handling tyre and will be better in the dry, but the PS4S has a lot more wet performance and some extra comfort, do it depends how you intend to use the (very nice) car!
Thanks - that’s really useful! I’ll go for the PSS as I rarely drive the car in the wet! https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
I've spent quite a bit of time in the various versions of the AMG GT, but the SLS is so much cooler!
? Unlikely to be anything quite like it in future sadly. Definitely a keeper for me.
Hi,
I drive a 2016 BMW 520d M Sport.
245/45/18 front
275/40/18 rear
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A run flat.
I drive daily and do 400 miles a week mostly in Central London as an executive private hire driver.
I absolutely hate these tyres and want to change from run flat to standard for the sake of comfort.
As I currently have the staggered set up, would it be possible to go 245/45/18 on all 4 with standard tyres?
Based on reviews I’m considering going Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 3 or 5.
Please advise.
I can't comment on changing tyre size as there's too many variables, but I expect your rear wheel would be too wide for a 245.
I hadn’t realised that my wheels were wider at the rear so thank you for that.
I can’t seem to find Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 3 (non run flat) in 275/40/18.
If I want to stick to Goodyear at the moment my choices seem to be:
Run flat
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3
245/45 R18 Y (100)
Car Tyre - BMW/Mercedes MO Extended Fitment - Run Flat - Reinforced
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3
275/40 R18 Y (99)
Car Tyre - BMW/Mercedes MO Extended Fitment - Run Flat
Or Standard Tyres
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport
245/45 R18 Y (100)
Car Tyre - Reinforced
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport
275/40 R18 Y (103)
Car Tyre - Reinforced
There doesn’t seem to be much of a difference for price when replacing all 4 tyres between the run flat and the standard.
Which set up would you suggest for comfort?
For comfort, the F1 SuperSport for sure.
Sounds good, I thought as much.
Are they better for wear and fuel also?
I do 15,000 to 20,000 miles a year.
In theory, yes
Excellent, thank you for your help.
Will put this set on and hope it makes me love my car again.
Let me know how you find them :)
Hi, I’m living in Hong Kong and the road surface are not so good there. I’m looking for tires that are comfortable and quiet for my e class w212fl, what tire would you recommend? Thank you so much.
There's lots of test data on the site covering comfort, but something like the Falken FK510 would be worth looking at for a comfortable big tyre.
Thank you for your reply. My car is E200 with 184hp and the tyre size is 245 45 r17. I’m doubt that the FK510 would be more quiet and comfy compare to other premium summer tyre such as T005 or primacy 4? Thank you so much.
The Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance was always well regarded for comfort, though it's an older pattern now. The Primacy 4 has sometimes been called noisy. Uniroyal Rainsport 3 is also comfortable, at the expense of handling feel.
Thank you for your reply:D
215 45/17 abarth punto 220hp
Am between ps4 and asym5
Only One question. Which one will last more I don't want soft tyres(p zero Neros was excellend on that) but I wanna change them to try smthing else
Michelin are often the leaders in wear performance, but the Goodyear looks to be great too.
But which is the most comfy. A soft ride for me ?
If you browse around the site you'll see tests which measure noise and comfort levels for the category of tyre you're looking at :)
Hi,
I'm about to replace 2 Asym 3 225/45r17 with Asym 5 on my Giulietta 2.0 but I'm wondering if I should or if is worth going for XL(Extra Load) tyres? Is there any benefits?
Since the sidewalls are reinforced does this means the tyre is more stable when cornering?
Thank you
In theory, yes, in practice I'm not sure the difference would be hugely noticeable
Hi, I have an Audi S5 pushing 380bhp. What Tyre would you recommend? I was looking at the Continental Contact Sport 6 or Michelin Pilot 4 or 4s. Possibly even Pirelli P Zero. I never go on track days, just whiz around country roads most of the time and sometimes motorway. I have a bit of a heavy foot so I need a tyre that doesn't wear too quickly and that also performs well in the dry and wet. Cheers.
The Michelin or Goodyear have some of the best wear while offering excellent grip
I am a little apprehensive about the Goodyear. Do they really have as good grip and handling as Michelin?
http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...
Hi.
Some time ago I asked about tires for my new car. I was to boast when he was ready. So I give a link to YouTube about my project ;)
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This is very cool! Keep the updates coming!
Thx ??
Hello, planning to swap runflat with nonrunflats for a 2015 mini cooper f55, any thoughts? Dims 195 55 r16
Lots of people have been changing recently!
Hi, I have a 2013 Mercedes-Benz E250 CDI AMG 204HP. I drive mainly on highways and some city driving. The tyre sizes are 245/40R18 Front and 265/35R18 Rear. I am contemplating to replace all 4 tyres. What do you suggest? I give priority to driving comfort and safety.
Any from the video that will fit :) Check out the latest UHP tyre test we shot too.
Hi, I've got a Peugeot 508Gt, running 235/45 18's, and I'm looking to make the ride more comfortable. Should I move over to a Crossclimate, or look for a cheaper touring tyre? Thanks in advance.
CrossClimate is good if you want snow performance, otherwise check out some tests in your size for comfort ratings :)
Hi and thanks for the review. I have a 2L petrol Mondeo running on 235/40/19 Contis and it needs a new set of boots. I would like something a bit quieter (and maybe cheaper) - any suggestions
Which Contis? Asym 5 should meet both those requirements, or Falken FK510
Tyrelab https://www.thetirelab.com/... give the Falkens a low score for comfort. I know it's all a trade off, but the car rarely exceeds 80mph but is often well loaded
Which tyres would you recommend at a 185/60/r15 size for a renault clio 3 1.4? I am really confused, there are so many options!! I am thinking goodyear efficientgrip performance, Bridgestone t005, yokohama k125 and falken z310. Which set would you recommend for everyday driving (not sporty) with good wet capabilities and low wear.. Greetings from Greece
A good short list (I assume you mean Hankook not yoko), all very close in quality so price and availability would have the most impact
Yeap my mistake! Thank you for your answer
Sorry typo which tyre is best for my car
Hi I've watched all your videos and I'm struggling to find a tyre for my Mercedes B Class 2L diesel something that meets all my needs and demands on the car I do a lot of miles and it's a main family car the tyres are 225 40 18 I just can't make up my mind which time is best for my car please can you help kind regards
I feel like this video will explain all the best options based on what you want from the tyre better than I can in a short amount of text.
Hi which tyre would you recommend for BMW 530 F11? I had Continental Sport contact 3 which wear very quickly. The front now has Bridgestone Driveguard which are noisy. The rears need replacement and the best review I can find is Michelin Primacy 3 ZP which are expensive! Comfort is important so have considered moving to a standard tyre. Why are there no comparative tests between Runflats and standard tyres of the same size??? Possibly because the manufacturers would discourage it? as Runflats are so poor on life, comfort, noise??
Runflats aren't generally worse on wear, but certainly comfort and noise. Sadly only Bridgestone are big on runflats, but they don't support testing like other brands do. Likewise, my runflat knowledge is pretty poor, but I believe the DriveGuard is one of the better options. Falken are pretty bullish about their latest runflat technology, but if you want a good tyre, switching to a regular or a seal tyre is the best option
I respectfully disagree on the wear issue. I worked extensively in the USA and BMW / Bridgestone settled a class action lawsuit out of court on this issue. This occured after drivers claimed significant reductions in milage from run-flat tyres. If I recall correctly drivers were refunded the full replacement cost if tyres needed replacement before 10,000 miles and up to 50% therafter. I would be really interested to see a side by side comparison of the Premium tyre brands tyres with their runlet equivalents. I am not a fan! On my BMW 530D F11 I have had to replace a wheel (18") and the front wishbones at under 50,000 miles. This is presumably due to to the increase in shock and vibration transmitted by the steel sidewalls through the suspension components/wheels. Or, maybe BMW's just do this?
i agree with all points of view on the runflats re noise and comfort but i drive a 430d on bridgstone runflats the rears are down to 3 mm the front 5.5mm and i have done 26k miles, i don't hang about and its not all on motorways in straight lines, so i am considering changing to none runflats but not because of wear, i am genuinely stunned at the rears lasting like they have, i have had several lighter slower cars that need fronts at 10k. (we also have a xdrive X1 that came with bridgestones RF and the were changed at 24k after i rotated them for even wear, fronts wore 50% quicker) replaced with conti sport 5's non RF, Quieter, smoother and wear after further 12k comparable. i do believe the swap from RF is something that most wont really notice on a day to day basis unless they are keen drivers paying a lot of attention to it ( few weeks in you stop paying attention), i am just curious to see if my own
car improves dynamically, if comfort also improves then its a win win.
Hey, I'm looking for some new tyres - 225/45/17 - to my Golf MK4 GTI with 194 hp and can't really decide which ones to go with. I'm looking for a mix between sport and comfort leaning more into the sporty side. Which ones would you recommend that's price worthy?
Asym 5, PC6 or PS4
Which tyres would you reccomend for an Audi S1 - 225/35/18 stock - hard to find tyres that size, 40 is more common.
Easy, Asym 5
http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...
Hi, I have to buy new set of tyres for Smax 215/60/16 99 V or W XL. I want the tyres to reduce vibrations coming from the road surface and to make the car go in a straight line as the Smax is a heavy vehicule and the tyre size is rather to comfy (ie not sporty). I drive with moderate speeds, country roads 50%, big city 30%, motorways 20%.
At the moment I have Vredestein Sportrac 5. In the past I used Michelin Energy Saver and Conti Premium 5 in my other cars (not in Smax). I do aprox. 10000 miles/year. I prefer to have FR option (rim protecion).
Which tyre would be the best choice? Conti Premium 5, Michelin Primacy 3, Vredestein Ultrac Satin 99 W or Bridgestone 001 Evo? Maybe other brand?
Many thanks for info:)
Of those listed, the PremiumContact 5 has had the best run in tests :)
Hi! Thanks for great content! Do you plan any SUV tyres testing?
It's certainly planned, but sadly these things take time! Hopefully there will be a video like this before the year is out!
Thanks Jon for your comprehensive review as always! As a fellow vehicle engineer myself, I appreciate your critical and insightful analysis, delivered in such an engaging manner!
I am currently running a 2017 Jaguar XE, and to be honest ever since I've had it I have never been 100% happy with the steering, with a slight wooliness around centre and vague turn-in feel; the front axle just always seem to take some time to 'settle in', which is sometimes at odds with the steering feedback. I would appreciate your thoughts on whether there is something I can do with my tyres setup to improve the steering feedback on my XE!
My XE is currently running the OEM Dunlop SportMaxx RT, 19 inch 225/255 staggered setup, the front tyres are down to about 3-4mm (shoulders are less than that!) and the rears have a good 6mm+ left on them. Your recent review have tempted me to check out either the Michelin Pilot sport 4S / Super Sport as a solution to improve the steering response. Am a bit conflicted at the moment though as I am thinking though the few options below:
1. Just replace the front axle with new OE Dunlop; for a matching set with the rear. Rationale being a new set with good shoulders may improve the steering feel, but I have always had niggling doubts that these tyres as they seem to have a rather soft sidewall, therefore may not be what I am looking for to give me direct steering feedback.
2. Replace the front axle only with PS4S / Super Sport, with the view of changing the rears to a matching set as well when they're a down to <4mm.
3. Throw away the whole lot and fit PS4S / Super Sport / (anything else you recommend?) all round.
I think in the ideal world, option 3 will be preferred but I do feel bad about throwing away the perfectly good set of rear! Option 2 is probably probably my preferred way to go but I have always tried to avoid running non-matching tyres. What is your opinion on this? Do you think it is advisable to mix tyres like this? And what would your personal recommendations be? (Doesn't have to be any of the 3 above!)
I would hugely appreciate your thoughts to resolve my conundrum!
From my experience with the RT, it doesn't seem to have an overly soft sidewall, and new tyres won't help as increased tread depth will mean more block movement and worse steering.
I think this one might be down to ePAS, but you could always try a set of the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSports or Continental SportContact 6 (see latest video)
Thanks for the rec, the SC6 do sound like a good bet (Eagle F1 supersports aren't available in my size at the moment...), might look into those when the time comes!
is you jag not a rear wheel drive ? my bmw 430 tyre wear is exactly the other way round at 26k miles on first set of tyres, I've never know a rear drive wear its fronts so much faster than its rears if at all ? its like your a slow driver but scream round every corner( not meant as an insult but a reason)very strange.
Lol a few points:
My Jag is AWD (would rather it be rear but you can't get the fast diesel without AWD, so be it...)
Before I bought my car at 12k miles the rear tyres were replaced, now 10k later I have more rears left than front....
I try to drive normally.... Just quite particular about the steering feel on my car. My Merc W204 with HPAS has wonderful steering for example, the Jag pales in comparison despite what the reviews say!
I hope you're enjoying your BMW, wish you happy and safe motoring!
Hello, really need help regarding what tires should I pick.
So I am living in Indonesia and now currently rolling Sailun Atrezzo Szr (it's not a well know brand i know), and it really lacks the grip when doing hard cornering, hardbraking or doing corner when braking. The car im using is a F30 320i remap (around 230hp) and the tire setup was 235/35 and 275/30 on Rotiform 19"
now i think i need to change my tires before it starts to kill me,and the options available Hankook S1 Evo (they don't have the new one like evo 2 or 3 here)
Toyo T1R
Falken FK453
I'd really like to have ps4s but the costs would have made me broke in no time.
So any suggestions up for me? because i always do spirited driving and the tyres im using is trying to make me crash
Anything else available in your region? That's quite an old list of tyres!
what tires should i be looking for for my 2012 Lexus is250 AWD
I was interested in the Extrem COntactdsw06 but the tire guy im buying the rims from is telling me not to bother and just go with Nexens he wants to sell. But im not sure about Nexen, i dont like buying things that are not well big name. Should I trust and just go with the Nexens. Im getting a good price on the DWS06 they are 20% off so $180 a tire instead of $230 a tire. the nexens will only be $150 total less than that. He thinks its the SU1 or SU4.
These are American market tyres which I've no experience with. Check out the ratings on tirerack.com, the rate the Conti very highly
Hello, how much safer at everyday normal driving
(how much shorter braking distances and better handling)
are the sportier tires than the touring ones (i.e Michelin Pilot Sport vs Michelin Primacy 4, Conti Prem 6 vs Conti Eco 6, etc)? Do they worth the money difference?
Thank you
In theory, categories like wet braking should be very similar amongst the best in group.
So, what are the main differences between those two categories?
Tyre slip angles are much lower on sports orientated tyres. They tend to offer much better feedback so can be judged at their limits easier and are usually more controllable in extremis. Other benefits are lack of tyre squeal and they can outlast touring tyres if the driving is enthusiastic.
Touring tyres tend to be quieter, smoother and more durable for most people. They have larger slip angles so tend not to be as accurate or consistent in respect of fast handling and need more steering wheel lock to negotiate bends quickly. Touring tyres are more likely to wear unevenly if used hard all the time.
Is it worth paying more for Continental PremiumContact 6 and their spoty feel when driving 150bhp saloon on 205/55 R16, or Hankook Ventus Prime 3 / Turanza T005 will do just just the same for less money?
That depends on how much you value a sporty feel!
So what should be best choice? Based on some reviews and tests Bridgestone Turanza T005 in sizes like 15" is best on wet and dry. My second choice is Continental EcoContact 6 which isn't best on wet based on your opinion (saying its ECO so it sacrifice that). And my third choice is Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125 but not sure is it good compared to Turanza T005. I my size 195/55/R15 there are not many others premium brands. Currently have Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance and I am not satisfied with braking on wet.
I live in Croatia which have very hot summer and often rain in pre/post summer season so that's why I need good tyre for wet braking and great for handling on hot. Also to say, I drive Seat Cordoba 1.9SDI so it's weak car and I don't drive aggresive and fast. But still safety is my biggest concern. Any suggestions @TyreReviews based on this info? I watched reviews and tests and after that I am even more confused :D
You seem to have the right idea with the Bridgestone / Conti / Hankook selection! All good tyres
Would that be your preferred order too or something else? Just for info. Experience cannot be changed with reviews :)
Would that be your preferred order too 1. Bridgestone, 2. Conti EcoContact 6, 3. Hankook ventus prime 3 for 15" touring tire or you would suggest something else? Conti PC6 don't exists for my size
Hi. Need some help regarding tyres :) I am driving a 2018 Civic HB, recommended tyres 235/45 R17. In the beginning i had Michelin Primacy 3 but they started to make a high frequency tyre noise after a couple of months. Changed them for some GY Eagle F1 A3 still 235/45 R17 but i am still experiencing high frequency tone that changes according to how rough the road surface is. It happens at all sort of speeds and its driving me nuts. :)
I suspect the tyre noise transfers through the suspension, since i got the wheel arches and floor sound proofed.
I dont care about performance or wear. Any suggestions to what tyres i can fit to R17 8J rims?
Thanks :)
If two very different sets of tyres have done it, it might be worth checking out the alignment etc.
Failing that, look for tyres with acoustic matting in, i think the sport contact 5 has a version, as does some Pirellis
Hi there, nice show! I need your experienced opinion. There is extremely disappointing info on Conti SC6 on the web and utube:
Extremely fast thread-wear, like double the wear the other tyres in its category. Gotta be fast to enjoy these, since they will be gone soon!
Alarmingly declining grip in cool weather, not winter cold weather I don't care about that, like this is an exclusively 'warm weather' tire.
Anything you can say on these?
The SC6 got a bad rep when they first came out on the Civic Type R, which was a powerful FWD hatch.
Wear testing in tests has shown them to be ok, but Michelin and Goodyear normally have a wear advantage over them still
Thanks, you have something to say on the cool weather performance?
Only that they won't be any worse than any other tyres in that segment.
That is a lot thanks.
Hi there,
I’m finding it hard to choose a tyre for my little Citroen C2 track car. I drive it on the road occasionally (but not hard) and I attend some wet track days too, however my budget won’t stretch to a set of wets and a set of semi slicks, so I need a good all round tyre that is competitive in the dry and won’t kill me in the wet.
I’ve been looking into the Nankang Ns2R as a strong option just out of pure VFM for what you get. Ado8r are an option, but I’m worried they’re not brilliant in the wet.
I’ll be needing 205/45/16 but could maybe stretch to 205/50/16.
Running with 870kgs and around 145bhp
Cheers
Your size is a ballache. NS2R is hard to beat for VFM, personally I'd give those a shot first then see how you find them
I have used up 2 sets of ad08r for autocross and road duty including wintertime and wet/damp driving - I have only been suprised a single time in aquaplaning conditions where every other tyre would probably have done the same. I highly recommend these.
Used on 1100kg/167hp 306 GTi-6.
Hi Tyre Reviews,
I'm struggling to find an equivalent UHP tyre for my new 18" alloys for my E46 M3.
The standard size alloys I currently have for my M3 are the 19" CS BBS alloys so an 8" and 9.5" width. They're shod in Michelin Pilot Super Sports and are perfect for the driving that I do.
I really really want the equivalent performance tyre or better in an 18" size but can't find the perfect tyre. The alloys are Apex FL-5's in 10.5" and 9.5" width. Yes they're much wider than standard but are the perfect offsets to specifically fit the M3 without any issues. The tyres that were fitted to the 18" FL-5's were a 245/40/R18 and a 275/35/R18 but were kept by the previous owner.
Do Michelin do the Pilot Super Sports in the sizes I need? Is the new Pilot Sport 4 the Super Sport alternative or is it the Pilot Sport 4 S?
This site will tell you if the MPSS is available in your size. The PS4S is the alternative, not the PS4, which isn't in 18.
Hi Tyre Reviews, care to compare Michelin PS4 vs Pirelli PZ4? Which is better overall? A later release of pzero or the champ ps4? Thanks
I would really appreciate some more 16" reviews - I avoided 17 or 18 " as they do tend to be harder ride and more expensive - around where I live there are a lot of rough potholes and speed bumps. Current car is 195/55/16 as was my last one and my son and daughters cars. Currently on half worm Conti PC5's which are good wet and dry but quite workn for the miles! Previously my favourite all rounder was Maxxis Premitra HP5 much under estimated tyre with good wet and dry grip and even a reasonable grip in snow for a Summer tyre - medium wear etc but much cheaper than Conti or Bridgestone. Reviews in this sort of size would be helpful for a large chunk of us readers I think
Hi Geoff
Im on 16" too, and looked in to this recently also had Maxxis HP5, this not tyre for me, quiet and comfy but grip in wet and dry is bit outstanding to mid range tyre, not much. worst tyre for understeer, not reacting to stering wheel massively.
much worst then Uniroyal rain sport 3, which is soft but at least tell you car direction, but still comfy and extreme wet grip, never lost any traction even driving through oceans of water.
but I would sugest Barum Bravuris 3, it beats all of them in all aspects, better wet an dry grip then maxxis and as good as uniroyal rainsport 3 and better feel and feedback then Toyo proxies T1R.
That's interesting Luk. On my previous car The Maxxis were the best tyre I ad tired - better than Conti PC2 and several others. Slightly higher rolling resistance then Falken ZIEX 914 but better in the wet and dry - and even OK in the snow... so I was surprised that they were less good for you. Both that car and my newer one are 195/55 /16 V My current car has Conti PC5 which have worn fast and will not be as good in snow (Ok I know they are not Winter tyres but we get very little snow in reality - so for a one off they were good.) I don't intend on getting PC 5 next time so Maxxis was on my short list again - along with Hankook K125, Vedestein Sportrack 5... I am concerned with Dunlop Blue response and also Goodyear Efficient grip Performance that they have extremely thin sidewalls. Uniroyal will scrub off fast if cornered in the dry hard - but are good in the wet - they also wear down fast. Its tricky!! Bridgestone T 005 looks OK but again I am concerned over the thin sidewalls.
Hi
I have seem most of your videos and i like the details you mentioning about tyres it help us choose right tyre for our purpose, saves buying and changing and reselling. but I have problem
Im looking for sporty precise handling tyre for 16" rim (205 50) and looks like this a challenge.
most sporty tyres are 18" and above.
Im left with ContiPremium 6 which apparently are quite soft and bendy on corners, dont like that.
Toyo R1R which is the same price bracket around £100 which seems good
some mentioned Yokohama advant Fleva for £100
and question is how close in terms of precise sporty handling are tyres like
NOKIAN powerproof
Hankook S1 evo 3
or Hankook Ventus prime k125 ,
is it worth considering premium touring ? does anyone know any 16" tyre with precise sporty handling ?
The PremiumContact 6 is actually very good handling, but if you want really stiff shoulders you'll have to go to a track focused tyre like the R1R
Its still road car so I suspect R1R is not for me then, Thanks for Advice
Do you know how Yokohama Advant Fleva relates to Premium contact 6
there is very little info about Yokohama tyres but company is big in racing
Luk, have you looked at Dunlop Sport BluResponse?
http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...
I use them in the 205/50 size on a 2003 Mini Cooper S with 16 x 7" wheels. They are quiet and have the right blend of comfort and performance in wet and dry, for my preferences. I drive mostly on badly surfaced London roads, riddled with badly patched holes, ruts and sunken drain covers.
Before those tyres, I had the Toyo T1R. The Dunlop tyres are significantly quieter, more comfortable, with better grip in wet and dry, and noticeably less rolling resistance.
The Toyo T1R felt like they had a stiffer sidewall than the Dunlop Sport BluResponse, but lacked grip in the wet and the wheels would spin far too easily when pulling away quickly from traffic lights and junctions.
Thanks Richard, I will look in to this.
I had T1R, not good tyre. lack of road feel, direction. and yes quite lethal on wet roads but good for drifting, had them on MX5.
Hello,
Your advice plz. I am a bit confused about picking the right set. BMW 420D F36 9/2016 RWD - RunFlat tires, Front and Rear 225/50/17. What're the top 3 suggestions that combine Good performance and comfort quiet ride.
Just grab the Goodyear F1 Assymentric 5 I think. I've heard great comfort, good thread wear, and good performance.
Thanks but, doesnt come on 225/50/17 RUN-FLAT
Avoid Run-flat of possible in my opinion.
A lot of comfort goes with Run-flats. But on runflats my knowledge is limited. Dunlop Sport-maxx ?
Hi mate, what would you advise for my Mercedes S350 AMG, 255/35/20 front 275/35/20 ? I am not looking for top performance but looking for a comfort ride. I am between Conti vs F1 Asym3 or 5.
Hi , I'm going to buy 225/40 R18 tires for Vw Golf 7 ,but I can't decide, for example, between Pirelli P Zero PZ4 and Michelin Pilot Sport 4, I'm waiting for your help or some other alternative .......
Hi Mr. Sen, I used to have same car couple years before. From the first day I pick up the car from Dogus oto I immediately fit my car with Good Year F1 Asym3. They were the best. Quietest tyres I have ever used also very short brake distance and perfect handling in dry and wet. I strongly recommend you GY F1 Asym3. They are pocket friendly as well..
Hi,
I have a Toyota Verso (132ps - 2011 model). I am looking for Summer tyres. Tyre dimensions are 205/60/r16.
I am between Continental PremiumContact 6 and Michelin Primacy 4. Which one do you recommend?
Thanks in advance and best regards,
Hello,
What is best option for the summer tyres dimension 215/40 r17? I have vw polo gt bluemotion 140ps 2013 model.I'm between michelin ps4 and goodyear f1 as5..i think maybe its too noisy about 72 db...also the speed ratings is Y and car manufacturer have V. I m open to another suggestions. thanks in advance.
Pretty much as good as each other! You'll be happy with both
Hi! Looking for new 235/35/19 tires. What are the most silent options available currently?
The T005 usually scores well in noise testing.
Hi guys. What you would advice from premium tires segment for 225/60/R17 (SUV, kia sportage3), as summer option? Previous tires - Toyo Versado.
PS. Traffic: 80% - city/highway, 20% - off-road.
I'd aim for the same brands, Goodyear, Conti and Michelin probably make the best SUV tyres going at the moment, and Pirelli too. There's quite a few SUV tests on the site now
I couldn't make a decision for my Peugeot 308. I'm between Sava intensa uhp2, Falken ZE310, Semperit speed life 2 for 225 45 R17 size. Also I m open to another suggestions.
Hankook Ventus Prime 3 is the other option. Only one of your three tyres made it to my video though...
if your car calls for 245/45 -18 and you step up to 19 inch rim do you stick with the same raito ?
You stick with whatever the car manufacturer recommends.
No you don't stick with the same ratio, because your speedometer will show an inaccurate speed and you may have issues with the tyres rubbing.
If 19" wheels are a manufacturer approved option for your car, you check what size tyres they recommend for 19" wheels.
If 19" wheels are *not* a manufacturer approved option for your car, you need to get advice from reputable people who are using 19" wheels on that car and learn how to use (and understand) a good wheel and tyre size calculator: https://www.wheel-size.com/...
Hello,
What is best option for the summer tyers dimension 205/60 r16. I have peugeot 407 1.6 hdi.
In middle range ?
There's lots of test data on this site to help you answer that!
Hello again,
What about Continental PremiumContact 6 vs the new Pirelli P Zero for my dodge?
Best regards Thomas
I prefer the PC6 but they're very close
hello dear tyrereviews.
I have the bmw e46 coupe 316 what is the best tyre for this car? i am between falken azenis 510, bridgestone s001 and goodyear assymetric 5. I am not interresting for high mileage. only grip and feeling. the tyre size in 225/45/17
Of those, Asymmetric 5
Thank you!!! And finally.. Michellin pilot sport 4 or assymetric 5?
There's lots of test data on the website which will allow you to answer that question for yourself.
Dear TyreReviews,
I own a Dodge Challenger SXT plus 2018.
i have found rims in 9x20 front and 10x20 rear. I have been searching for tyres now for month and i just get more confused. So i need your help please.
In your review for best tyres 2018 you put the Falken Azenis 510 with the top 3 premium, and you never talk about the Pirelli P Zero. And in 2019 you talk about the P Zero, but there is two kinds of P Zero. The P zero for luxury cars and the super sport. And when i compare the Falken vs P zero the Falken have better reviews. So is the reviews for P zero regards to the old model?
Ass you see I'm very confused and need help for deciding the tyres for my new rims.
And if you recommend another brand, its ok =)
to point out I'm not going to drive the car on track.
Best regards Thomas.
The new P Zero is a better tyre than the Falken, but it's also a lot more expensive. In that price bracket I prefer the Michelin, Goodyear or Conti offerings, but the margins are very small. The P Zero is a great tyre!
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thanks for the reply.
the prices i have for the new Pirelli P Zero LS 245/45 R20 103V (for luxury salonn) is 171£, and for the Falken FK510 is 165£ a piece.
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Which are best for low cabin noise?
Lots of tests on this site with noise scores. EcoContact 6 might be the best of this bunch but that's a hunch.
I'm interested in both the ventus prime 3 and the falken 310 eco, and looking for the one that has the stiffer sidewalls, as my Hyundai i40 specs 205/60/16 which is squishy enough without ending up with Uniroyal rainexpert 3 levels, (they were soft!). Which would you recommend for a comfortable balance?
Hard to know, they're all pretty soft now, but I'd aim for the Hankook
Thanks very much for the reply. Great website and videos by the way, very informative.
Dear TyreReviews,
I'm quite confused on the PS4 vs CSC6. From your reviews i understand that PS4S is the correct competitor, but from the user reviews it feels like the PS4 is very closely matched to the CSC6.
Could you possibly clarify if the CSC6 is that much better than the PS4? I'm wondering if it's worth the probable trade-off in wear. Also is one much better in the wet than the other?
Your feedback would be highly appreciated.
Cheers,
Adrian
P.s. Love the youtube content and the site. It's my go-to guide.
You won't find the CSC6 much below 19", it's 100% against the PS4S not the PS4. As mentioned in the video, Conti have the PC6 vs PS4.
Hi Jon,
first of all, thanks for all the great information you create and share!
I find myself comparing these tyres (PS4 vs SC6) beacuse I they are available in my 18'' size, and as you have compared tyres in different sizes I would like to ask you something.
For the odd trackday (3/4 a year) on a heavy car (Audi S4 V8) would it be better to have a 235mm "sportier" tyre (SC6 or Eagle F1 Supersport) or a wider 255mm "normal" tyre (PS4, Asym 5, Hankook S1 v3)? Running 8,5J wheels.
The sidewall of the 255/35 would be slightly shorter that 235/40.
The extra width would improve heat management which is an issue with such a heavy car, but the thinner tyres are better in that department to start with.
The lower sidewall would probably improve some feel/feedback, but the thinner tyre are also better in that department.
Basicaly: do you think that on the track, the 20mm extra width compensates not being "as good"?
Thanks for you time!
Wow, that's a difficult question to answer without actually testing!
Personally I'd probably aim for the sportier tyre, as they're designed to manage heat better. In the PS4 vs PS4S vs Cup 2 video, the PS4 went off quicker than the PS4S.
That said, a few track days a year I'd be going for a second set of wheels, as an S4 will destroy expensive road tyres very quickly.
It's clear that Michelin PS4 and Michelin PS4s are in different category. In tyrereviews.co.uk, both tyres listed under same category (UHP). Will you fix the categories? I have difficulty to understand which tyres are in the same category with PS4s. I know Goodyear F1 SuperSport and ContiSportContact6 are in the same category with PS4s. But I don't know about which tyres from other brands (Pirelli, Dunlop, Bridgestone, Nokian, Hankook, Nexen, Kumho, Falken, Toyo, Yokohama...) are in the same category with PS4s.
Dear TyreReviews,
I was wondering if you could help me out.
I'll be getting my NB mx5 next week and I was wondering which tire would fit it perfectly.
I won't be tracking it so I'm looking for something that's suitable for longer road trip.
The size I'm looking at is 195/45 on 15" rims. I was looking at the Falken ZIEX ZE914 EcoRun, but as I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for I'd appreciate your help!
Thanks for the content you provide us for free!
Kind regards,
Greg
Tricky size, having a search it seems to be the ZE310 would be your best option in terms of outright performance, which replaced the ZE914
Thanks for the answer!
If you have any suggestion on what would be better suited for the mx5, I'm open as I also have to buy new rims.
Thank you for your time!
Greetings,
Greg
I'm afraid I can't help on a per-car basis, I'd suggest checking out the MX5 owners club and see what they're all doing with wheels and tyres :)
I had MX5 NB and used toyo T1R 205 45, and didnt like it, it was too spongy wasnt sure what car is doing and in wet it was good for drifting only, braking was actually unpredictable and dangerous.
changed to Barum Bravuris 3hm 195 45 and what a difference. super grip compering to toyo, more precise steering and more MPG. I even overtaken car nearly sideways with full control.
Worth mentioning that the same tyre Barum bravuris 205 50 was significantly more spongy and lost a bit of precision so low 45 profile probably made all the precision
Any review on Bridgestone S007A
It's only available in limited sizes in the UK and Bridgestone don't market the tyre so we don't really get the opportunity to test it
Hi TyreReviews,
Do you know where the Continental MaxContact6 MC6 sits in the range? Any reviews of this tyre that you know of?
I purchased a car with them and 2 need replacing, but priced similar to Pilot Sport 4.
Sorry, it's not a pattern we get in Europe so know very little. Maybe check out tirerack
Unfortunately it isn't something they have in North America either.
Continental market the MC6 as a Pilot Sport 4 competitor. But in Australia we also get the CSC6. Which makes it extremely confusing.
Thanks for the reply anyway!
The SC6 is starting to appear in amercia too, check out tirerack!!
Still waiting for cpc 6 vs ps 4 (205 55 r16)
PC6 vs PS4 has been done many times, just not in that size. It's very close. Data on this site!
Where is the Bridgestone t005 Best for small size ?
The t005 is still a great tyre for smaller sizes, sadly the video was getting long so bits had to be cut.
Does it mean that t005 tyre is in the next position? Would you recommend more those 5 that you mentioned before t005?
It means it's so close in that segment that while the T005 might not work best in one size and on one car, it might be best in a different size on a different car. You can see the test data on this website which highlights this.
I will, thank you for your fast answer.
I am looking for 205/55/16. In all the reviews I have read, I can assume that t005 would be a good choice. I think they are in the premium class, am i right?
Yes you are correct
New GTÜ/ Automobilclub ACE summer test published for 9 tyres of 205/55/16 inclusive T005...soon to come here, I guess.
I bought exactly one year and 11.500 Kms ago 4 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 size 205/55 R16 94Y for my Audi A3 2.0 TDI. They are the only UHP tyres for this size. Trust me, they are excellent either in the dry and wet, braking and handling. Very confortable and relatively low loise. My previous tyres were Dunlop Sport Blue Response which were already great in the dry but not in the wet (mainly wet handling), noisier and lasted 60.000 Kms. Dunlops had very low rolling resistance, which I already knew from Tyrereviews but the Michelins only added up 0,2 litres/100 Kms in my average fuel consumption. Drawback for the Michelins? Price (80€ more than other Premiums for a set of 4). But you'll feel you bought a new car!
It would be great if there were more 16" Reviews. My family have 3 cars all with 195/55/16V tyres. 205 seems to be especially popular.
I saw a T005 in a tyre shop and was shocked by the thin flimsy Tyre wall and can't help but think it will affect general handling.
All sidewalls have gotten soft thanks to rolling resistance chasing :(
Geoff - to be legal, any variant tyre has to be within +/- 2% of the overall tyre diameter of the OEM tyre size, so that the speedo and odometer are with the allowed tollerance. In this case, it's right near the limit at +1.8%.
I'd also check with the cars' manufacturers just to be sure that size can fit on the hub and don't stick out from the car (illegal), noting also that you would have to check with your insurer whether this impacted your premium.
I can fully understand you as the 205/55 R16 is one of the most popular tyre sizes, and thus one of the cheapest, along with the 195/65 R15.
Note also that quite a number of the decent all-season tyres are of the reinforced XL type (capable of taking slightly heavier loads). As regards softer sidewalls, I've read reports on the Goodyear EGP that they are of a similar construction. It's always a bit of a compromise between performance, comfort and mpg.
Andy - I have just revisited this thread and not sure which comment of mine you were replying to - however on my previous Honda Jazz it came with 185/55/16 V tyres and the speedometer when reading 70 was lying as I was only doing 66 - changing up to 195/55/16 changed it but it still over read so all OK. (68mph read as 70 instead) No negatives were experienced at all. My current car come with 195/55/16 V91 Conti PC5 and I really don;t know what to replace them with - they are a bit too expensive and wear hard - I don;t think they would be so clever on the occasional snow flurry - on the Jazz I had Maxxis Primetra HP 5 which proved all round better than The Conti PC 2 and actually offered some grip even in the snow. I think they may have altered the formula as they are not reviewing quite as well and have gone from E rolling resistance to C So for my current Seat Ibiza (2017) I am looking for similar perfomance to the PC5 but cheaper and also retaining reasonable rolling resistance - I have a short list but when reading reviews every tyre seems to have a 'but' attached (ie high rolling resistance, longer stopping distance in the rain) Short list is Hankook VP3, Dunlop Blue response, Vredestein SC5 Maxxis HP5 - I tried the Falken 914 on the last car and it was quite good - but not as good as the Maxxis and now is replaced by the 310 which comes up as higher rolling resistance. Decisions !!!
As regarding your speedo 'lying' (presumably when compared to your sat nav) - it's not, but that it is deliberately calibrated to either read the exact speed or over-read, which is more likely as the speed increases. Normally they over-read by up to 10%, so yours only doing so by about 6-7% at high speed (it'll probably be less at 30mph) is about normal - that's what mine does.
It's done this way precisely because car manuafcturers do not want customers to be nicked for speeding because their speedo slighly under-reads at any time.
The problem is that they have to be calibrated for the worst case scenario, which is when a tyre is new and its diameter is greatest (no wear). Thus, as the tyre wears and the rolling diameter decreases, the speedo will become less accurate, but erring on the over-reading side.
Whilst having a 100% accurate speedo is great, is your throttle and brake control that good that you can always keep below the speed limit? Better in my view to have a small reading error in your favour just in case.
As regards choices, tyres are very subjective - both for the driver and with usage for particular cars and sizes of tyre combos. The rolling resistance is only really worth considering if it is either much higher or lower than the competition and if you are doing a reasonable annual mileage (well over 10k) that it would make that much of a difference, especially when other factors such as the tyre price, handling, comfort and especially tyre life were taken into consideration.
It's always some kind of compromise, as you can never have a tyre that is the best on all fronts - normally sacrificing performance for longer wear, mpg and price or vice-versa. I'd check the user reviews for your car and particular variant to see what they say about various tyre brands and specific tyres, which can change when new tyres are introduced, even from the same brand.
Best of luck.
Hey, what is your opinion on Continental EcoContact 6 in compare to Continental Premium Contact 6? I need advice for 205/55/16 Kia Ceed '07. Which one do you prefer?
Depends what you want from the tyre
It's for everday use in the city. Not more than 15k km per season. Not for sport driving.I note that Eco have better rain handling and braking? Is it true?
What about dry? What do you suggest?
No. Generally the ECO range is lower rolling resistance and more comfort, the Premium range will have better handling and grip. This is explained in more detail in the video.
So I can assume that you will recommend Premium over Eco?
Thank you in advance.
No, it depends what YOU want. If you want ultimate low fuel use and comfort you would pick the ECO.
I won't use them in extreme racing/driving, so maybe the Eco is a better choice.
Thank you.
I Guess you meant 205/55x16 for the 16" instead of 255/55
You are correct, good spot!