Time indexes in this video
01:01 - Ultra High Performance Tyre Recommendations
03:39 - Touring / Highway Tyre Recommendations
05:48 - All Season Recommendations
07:07 - SUV / 4x4 Recommendations
Videos Referenced
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rQoBeUH9hY
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41iQl1wzGD4
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rQoBeUH9hY&t=556
[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PEqUfC3FbE
UHP Tyres Recommended in the Video
Continental SportContact 6
Continental PremiumContact 6
Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Hankook Ventus S1 evo 3
Nokian PowerProof
Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
Falken Azenis FK510
Maxxis Victra Sport 5
Nexen N’Fera Sport
Giti GitiSport S1
Zeetex HP2000VFM
Infinity EcoMax
Touring Tyres Recommended in the Video
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2
Michelin Primacy 4
Continental EcoContact 6
Continental PremiumContact 6
Hankook Ventus Prime 3
Nokian WetProof
Maxxis Premitra HP5
Nexen N Blue HD Plus
Giti GitiPremium H1
All Season Tyres Recommended in the Video
Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3
Michelin CrossClimate+
SUV Tyres Recommended in the Video
Video Script
Ah, 2020. It's proving to be a funny year for so many reasons.
I wasn't actually planning on making this video for 2020, as not a huge amount has changed since the 2019 version, but as I've had thousands of polite requests to make an updated version, I thought I'd keep you guys happy and deliver.
As with previous years, I'll be looking at the very best tyres available for hypercars to shopping cars, and even 4x4 and SUV.
As not a lot has changed at the top end since last year, so this year I'm going to spend a little more time looking at the midrange sector of the market, just in case covid-19 has meant you're focusing your money on things other than your vehicle.
It's also worth noting that most years I have the tyres I'm recommending delivered to me, so I can talk about them with them on camera, and film some sexy b-roll. As that seemed like putting our heroic delivery drivers through unnecessary risk, you'll just have to pretend I'm with the tyres I'm talking about, and excuse some of the editing using footage from previous years.
Lastly, I'll be referencing other videos and tests throughout this video, which I'll be sure to leave links to in the description. And while you're down there, please consider hitting the subscribe button and bell icon. This isn't a spammy channel, we're averaging just 1 high quality video a month, and more subscribers means more opportunity to do some really cool testing!
As always, I'll start with UHP, or ultra high performance tyres, but if you want to jump to touring, all season or SUV, the times will be in the description!
UHP tyres are usually fitted in 17 inch and above, and are designed to give you ultimate grip in the dry and wet, a sporty feel, and better driving dynamics when enjoying your tyres.
The three key brands have segmented their UHP tyres into what I'm calling comfort bias UHP, and UUHP or "maximum performance" tyres. The divide is usually around the 18" mark, so it's not often you have the option for both these tyres in the same size, but if you do, this should help clear things up.
As with 2019, the very best UHP tyres on the market are still from Continental, Goodyear and Michelin.
For the comfort bias UHP tyres we have the Continental PremiumContact 6, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5, and Michelin Pilot Sport 4, and for their bigger, even more sporty brothers, we have the Continental SportContact 6, Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport, and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.
I consider these six tyres the very best on offer covering 16" to 22", and all extremely close in performance, so I'm not going to spend a lot of time telling you why you should fit these.
Instead, go check out last year's video, our mega tyre test, and the long term test of the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport vs the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, they're all linked in the description. Also, make sure you're subscribed for the highly requested long term test of the Continental PremiumContact 6, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5, and Michelin Pilot Sport 4 I'm working on at the moment, that should be out in around a month! I'll be putting updates on instagram if you're interested.
A lot of people will be wondering where Bridgestone, Dunlop and Pirelli are, as I miss these out most years in the UHP segment. Well, the Bridgestone Potenza S001 seems to either have wear or wet grip issues, and while the S007 is now out, I've not seen it in any tests, or had any communication from Bridgestone about it. The Dunlop SportMaxx RT2 is a great tyre, but now a generation behind the top three as it came out with the Asymmetric 3, and the PZ4 P Zero is a VERY good tyre, but on average it just tests a little behind the Conti, Michelin and Goodyear trio, and on a personal note, I'm not the biggest fan of how it feels on the front axle.
If you don't want to be paying top dollar, like last year I'll be recommending the Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3, Falken Azenis FK510 and Nokian PowerProof. All three of these tyres come in a little under the top three price wise, and offer great grip and comfort, especially the Falken and Nokian. Think of those as more competitors for the comfort bias UHP tyre segment. It's also DEFINITELY worth looking into the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti, as this has been testing really well this year, and it's a tyre I really like.
If you want to save a little more again, the Maxxis Victra Sport 5 and Nexen N Fera Sport SU2 look to be the best of the rest, offering good dry and wet grip, at a lower price. They do however look to wear a little more quickly than some, so be mindful of that.
Lastly, honourable mentions go to Zeetex with the HP2000 vfm, Giti with the GitiSport S1, and Infinity with the EcoMax, however it's worth noting at this end of the market you will be giving up certain areas of performance.
Do your research on sites like tyre reviews to workout exactly what trade off you're comfortable with.
Touring tyres, or highway tyres, are tyres with less focus on sporty handling, and more on comfort, low noise and low fuel use.
However, unlike the UHP tyres, we DO have a new challenger for this closely contested segment! Goodyear have released the Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2!
Sadly, no one in Europe has done a 16" tyre test this year. I was MEANT to be doing a full 16" test a few weeks ago, but travelling to france to do the test wasn't the smartest idea, so that's been postponed to June. Subscribe for that :)
This means for now, we only have a 17" test, and a TUV test to see how the new Goodyear performs. Of the two, the 16" TUV test is the most interesting, as it shows the new EfficientGrip Performance 2 wearing 20% better than even the best Michelin can offer, while also having better wet braking performance.
If this wear and wet grip combination carries over to other testing, this is the new tyre to beat. Stay tuned for our test in June (assuming we can fly again)
Next up, we're falling back to the tyres I recommended last year, which are the Michelin Primacy 4, Continental EcoContact / PremiumContact 6 (don't ask), Hankook Ventus Prime 3 and Nokian WetProof. Go check out last year's video to find out why.
As for what I can recommend from the next step down in price, again Giti, Maxxis, Nexen and look to be leading the way with the Giti GitiPremium H1, the Maxxis Premitra HP5, and the Nexen N Blue HD+. As before, these can save you quite a bit of money, but you will be making sacrifices in certain areas of performance.
If you'd like to run an all season tyre year round, there's only really been one tyre I've been recommending up to now for the UK climate, and that's the Michelin CrossClimate+. Thanks to it's impressive summer performance, and grip way beyond a summer tyre in snow and ice, this is still currently my top recommendation, but Goodyear have also just released the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen-3. The Gen-2 of this all season tyre was more often than not the"best of the rest" behind the Michelin for the UK, and sometimes the best choice for more extreme climates, so I expect the Gen-3 version to be right up there on performance!
I was also meant to be conducting an all season tyre test around now, including the new goodyear, however that's also been delayed. Subscribe for that.
The SUV recommendations are going to be even more efficient, mostly because a lot of tyre manufacturers don't split their UHP and touring tyres into specific SUV patterns anymore, so if you can find any of the previous tyres in the correct size, and most importantly, load rating, feel free to fit them!
Perhaps not surprisingly, of the dedicated SUV tyres, testing has shown the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV to be the very best for on-road performance, with the SUV sizes of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 pretty much matching it, and again the Falken FK510 SUV having a solid performance at a slightly lower price.
In certain sizes, the Dunlop SportMaxx RT2 SUV also looks to be a good buy, so there's a recommendation for Dunlop!
Hi
Some of my tyres are very soon due. change.
What's the best tyres for Audi A5 TDI S line 2017?
I probably cover an average of 100-140 miles weekly.
Do I get winter tyres (what would be the best and would that mean changing the tyres in the summer?) or the best tyres in the market to cover all year round season? Thanks
Hey, that's a lot of questions with no easy answer. I suggest you take a look around the site and the youtube channel as there's plenty of videos discussing the different types of tyres available and the best of those
What are the best winter tyres for Alfa Romeo Stelvio 20"?
See https://www.tyrereviews.co....
Hi, I’ve got a Mercedes C63s with 285, 30, 20 z’s on the back currently, what would you recommend as they are near to needing replacement. I don’t do a lot of winter miles typically but grip is a key as the back end can get a bit loose in the wet! Thanks
Check out the 19" test from last year, that will cover the tyres in your sizes. Short list is F1 SuperSport, SC6 and PS4S
Hi, I currently have a 987 Cayman S with Pilot Super Sports (Non N-Rated) all round. I'm looking to replace them and I'm not sure what to replace them with. The Super Sports or PS4 were my immediate thought but there are no N-rated ones in my size (265/40/R18). The alternatives are older N-rated Michelin PS2. So is it better to get newer, more modern tyres, or are the PS2 constantly updated given they still are still being sold and I assume are still manufactured.
Once a tyre is N rated they're locked in spec, so unless it's a recent N rating (like N3 or N4) it's unlikely to be updated.
The SuperSport would probably be my pick, either in Goodyear or Michelin flavour. The PS4 will feel a bit too soft for a Cayman S
Thanks, I'll probably get the Michelin PSS again. Out of curiosity, what do the newer N ratings offer over older ones?
Impossible to know exactly, but they're sometimes an updated tyre, and sometimes a different version of the tyre intended for a different vehicle that uses the same size
Hey Jonathan, do you know what the reason for running 1.75 bar inflation is in the pass-by noise test described by the TUV Sud report featuring the Goodyear EP2? seems quite a lot lower than what most people would run, I also don't think that is what VW would recommend either. I assume tyre roar would be higher at that figure and that may be a way to normalise the score, possibly adjusting pressure to load or viceversa
Very good question, I shall try and get an answer for you!
also, in case you are interested, there is an all season tyre test from Al Volante dated last year (2019). The big names are in there and surprisingly the Pirelli performs quite well.
I have found the results on tiresvote.com, I haven't investigated further, but I can have a look if I can find the original review.
Here it is: https://www.google.com/amp/...
sorry it wouldn't let me edit
Thank you :) I'll follow this up later this week!
Here is the official answer:
The Noise test performed by TueV was based on European regulation R117 which does not take into account the vehicle that is used but only the max load capacity that a tire can carry. Based on the load index and the tyre designation (SL or XL) there are fixed inflation pressures and a load range under which the tyres have to be tested on any vehicle. This is done in order to be able to better compare the overall exterior noise performance of the different tyres.
Any advice for swapping over between summer and winter tyres?
I have a 2013 Civic EX 1.8 VTEC, I'd ideally like 2 sets of wheels with summer and all season tyres on but how do I get around the TPMS issue?
The TPMS sensors in the Civic are in the wheel valve stems, meaning that I either have to purchase 4 new sensors for the wheels and buy 2 machines to calibrate them (1 machine to swap over the wheels sensors whenever I change from summer to winter wheels & vice-versa, and a 2nd machine to initially calibrate/register the new sensors) which becomes very expensive.
2nd option is to not have TMPS sensors in 1 set of wheels/tyres, but I'm pretty sure that is an MOT failure if the TPMS isn't working, and could have insurance issues too if I'm involved in an accident and found that the car didn't have the TPMS sensors when they were factory installed.
Is there another way around the issue?
I guess I could just run a set of Crossclimates all year round.
Thanks
CrossClimate is a good answer. I can't comment on the calibration issues with multiple sets of wheels on the Honda, we never has issues testing between wheels with and without, usually we just recalibrate the system when it throws and error.
Yes for top All Seasons tyres of the last generation, depending on how many km/year you annually do, you can go for the Michelin Cross Climate+ (high miles age and best in the dry), Conti AllSeasons (low fuel cons. and very good winter, claimed), Bridg. AllWeather A005A (improved weak winter but low fuel cons. and excellent wet and fuel cons.) or the newest GY 4Seasons Gen. 3.
For the calibration you will have to ask your tyre service.
Help please, for my GLA 220d Front wheel drive with sport suspension, 235/45 r 19.
I drove the very good Bridgestone dueler Run on flat (original equipment) now in the last year I drive the good Contisport 5 run on flat.
I search a more comfortable ride tyre with excellent sporty drive, perhaps no more RF.
If you swap away from runflats you will automatically see a great increase in comfort, but some people report losing some of the steering speed and feel that runflats have.
The swap is worth doing if you're ok with no extended mobility.
Please Help. I have a Jaguar XF 3.0V6 Diesel Sport. It has on Dunlop Sportmaxx that need replacing on the rear. They are 255/35/20. I have been looking back and forth on your site to decide what tyres to put on. I do verly little mileage in it and drive quite carefully...most of the time. I was interested in an All Season tyre but cannot seem to find the ones you recommended in my size. The problem is the power can kick in quite quick on the rear and push the back end out if slippery when trying to pull out quick. I dont want budgets and i am in a quandary whether to just shell out for the Top tyres or something cheaper?
You've got a good amount of choice in your size: https://www.tyrereviews.co.... I can't help you with budgets, I'd always say fit premium. There is the Vredestein Quatrac Pro all season tyre in your size, but unless you're expecting to use the car in snow, it will be a disadvantage to a summer tyre for most of the year.
Looking to replace my worn runflats on my F31 320d. 225/40r19 front & 255/35r19 rear. I don't want to go for runflats again as they're shockingly expensive, looking at a set of Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3s or now given their mention here and a good showing in the AutoBild test maybe considering the Nexen N'Fer SU1. Nexens are slightly cheaper but only heard good things about the Hankooks. Any advice appreciated.
I'd probably aim for the Hankooks, the Evo 3 hasn't been in many tests but I'm sure as it gets tested more it will prove to be an excellent tyre
Please help me. What tyres should I get for my Audi A4 B8 170 HP 225/55 R16? I was thinking between ContiPremium 2 or ContiPremium 5(not sure if I can find it on the market) or ContiEco6. I am more interested in stability at high speeds and grip on dry surfaces. I like to feel the car pulling forward.
Definitely not the Eco6 if you want steering feel and stability. The Yokohama Advan Sport V105 is a sporty tyre in your size: https://www.tyrereviews.co....
Go for the new Conti PremiumContact 6, which is a combination of Conti PremiumContact 5 and Conti SportContact 5, or the new fuel and noise efficient and long lasting Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance 2 or the long lasting Michelin Primacy 4 or even the more sportive Michelin Pilot Sport 4. New Bridgestone Turanza T005 is also highly valuated, so compare the prices as well.
Dear Jonathan,
I was waiting for this video since the day you announced its arrival in your previous video about car- and tyre-care during the long quarantine and stay-home-order days.
On my 4-years-old D segment sedan car I have been driving with PIRELLI CINTURATO P7 tyres from end of April through end of December. Despite many contributors on the national forum of my car's make & model in Turkey, I have been very happy with them. I drove Bridgestone Turanza ER300 from 2005 through 2016. Before Bridgestone I was driving Michelin Energy Saver. I also drove Douglas budget tyres and Uniroyal tyres on a Honda Civic DX during the years I spent in the Midwest USA. I am not missing these former models I had been driving for about 19 years in the past.
Bridgestone Turanza ER300 was introduced in 2005. Pirelli Cinturato P7 in 2009. From the comments section of your video I read in your comment that the NEW Pirelli Cinturato P7 (codename P7C2) has been launched, but not tested anywhere yet. Upon reading this comment I researched these brandnew pneus on the web and read everthing published about them on the official website of the company Pirelli. Here are the links to the pages explaining the new features of P7C2s:
1-) https://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/car/catalogue/product/new-cinturato-p7
2-) https://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/car/cinturato-p7/
Now I am eagerly looking forward to the tests of these newcomer tyres of PIRELLI for summer touring / high-performance driving. Of course, as we say in Turkish, your test "to one side", all the rest "to the other side".
According to the own proclamations of Pirelli, the NEW Cinturato P7 (P7C2) outperforms its exisiting sibling P7 in dry braking and handling. Significantly more so in wet braking and handling.
In case your tests corroborate these claims too, then I would like to get a new set of P7C2s for my car next year in April. Of course they would cost a fortune. Pirelli is in no way an easily affordable brand in Turkey at all. So, I'd better start saving a few bucks for that purchase.
Many heartfelt thanx for your videos which redefine the word "EXCELLENT" and set the bar in the automotive industry when it comes to the test and assessment of CAR TYRES, Jonathan. Please keep up your unprecedented work!
Cheers'n greetings from Istanbul.
Hi,
Very sorry for not replying, I didn't get an alert for this message!
Thank you for the kind words! The P7C2 does look interesting, it will be very interesting to see if it can beat the new Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2!
Rest assured I'll be testing it as soon as I possibly can.
Stay healthy :)
Thanks for the video :)
I know Nokian is -in theory- a good bang for the buck. But after awful experiences with their WR D3 (ultrahard after some years, bad in wet, growing cracks everywhere) there is
nobody in my circle of friends and acquaintances who want to try Nokian again. I´ve
read similar experiences from newer Nokians.And don´t forget Nokian cheats on
tyre-tests and send tyres to the magazines which are different to the tyres you
could buy.
An other tyre which causes some bad reputations is the FK510. I drived em some years ago and it isn´t my personal favorite because of the steering feeling but I thought ppl with an unsporty drive style would be pleased with the performance of the tyre. I read
sometimes some cars (mostly BMW RWD) would be almost undriveable with an
ultrasoft steering feeling, especially at higher speeds.
Personally I´ve bought more than 25 years ago my last Michelin, the XM+S 130. After the MXV3A Michelinbuild many tyres which were only good at dry and in tyre life, but bad or awful in the wet. . But sometimes I drive other cars with Michelin tyres. The Alpin 4 was nice, but I was disappointed from the Primacy 3. It was not bad but the tire life was
disappointing. Dunno if the PS4 and PS4 S are really that better than the
competion, but still think Michelin isn´t the best in everything. And my
sympathy goes down after a critical Michelin-sponsered review by TÜV with the
Alpin 6. Tested with around 2mm tread. Michelin was the best there, the by far
worst was the LM001 Evo. The only tests were tire life, braking and traction on
snow.
No test on wet, especially Aquaplaning would be very dangerous with such tyres.
But: This let some ppl think a 2mm-Michelin is still an good tyre but every car with a midrange-tyre and 5mm tread is much better. I think this test is a dangerous statement. Dunno what Michelin thinks to release such a review.
I agree with you in some points about Dunlop and Bridgestone. Bridgestone seems to develop mostly runflat, Touring and winter-/all season tyres and still manufacture old UHPs like the S001. I dive actually the RE002 and it isn´t a good tyre. But some ppl say
it´s overall better than the S001.
Before I bought the RE002 I drive the “old” P zero and it was a fantastic tyre in dry and wet. The RE002 (I bought only 2 of it) was new and can´t match the 3 year old and 4mm-tread P zero on wet. Never drove the PZ4 but some reviews showed it´s a very strong
tyre, also in dry and wet, better than the F1 Asy. 5 or PS4 (see ADAC-test
2020). So I think it´s worth to be mentioned if you don´t look for a tyre with
low rolling resistance or high mileage.
I asked Dunlop some weeks ago about a new UHP but they know nothing about a successor, to bad.
Re Nokian, historically they've made some mistakes, but the current range of tyres are from a different era, and are much better.
Re Dunlop, the brand (In Europe at least) is taking a backseat while they push goodyear
Yeah, Dunlop stillsold WS5 and RT2 while Goodyear realeased a new generation. Some years ago Goodyear made a statement to a german tyre magazine(or similar) like: Goodyear is for the longitudinal dynamics, Dunlop for the lateral dynamic.
But now I´m afraid Goodyear want to let Dunlop and Fulda die slowly
About Nokian, I will take a look at experiences in some years.
sometimes some cars (mostly BMW RWD) would be almost undriveable with an
ultrasoft steering feeling, especially at higher speeds.
Utter nonsense..Falken Azenis FK510 is a very very good sporty tyre. I'm driving Toyota MR2 Turbo with 225 50 17 at the rear and I never strangling for grip in wet or dry! In the wet I can launch without loosing traction.Unfortunately they last about 4500 to 5500 miles and I discard them when they less the 3mm. I'm on my 4th set now..however they started to get more expensive use to pay £125 for 2 tyres,,now they about £160. So I've ordered Toyo Proxies Sport to try.
p.s From my personal experience every Pirelli tyres I've tried are overpriced crap especially for UK roads and climate. That's include p6000 P Zero Assimetrico P7 Centurato P zero rosso. Bridgestone,Yokohama and Pirelli not far away from each other..average grip in dry..and dangerous in the wet!
Hm, maybe 20 years ago Yokohama had one tyre which was good in the wet, the A510. P6000 wasn´t not bad the time it was launched but maybe it was produced to long. P Zero Rosso was also droven here long times ago, it was also an overall good tyre and used for a long time as OE-tyre for Mercedes. Maybe it was also produced to long.
The P7 Cinturato (original, not Blue or something) was also droven here on 3 different cars and the only "problem" was the small cracks on the tread.
Can´t say nothing to the Assimetrico.
But the P Zero, at least with temperatures over 10°C, was the best tyre in the wet I ever had, in the dry also good.
I drive almost 30 years cars and had a lot of tyres, a sporty drivng-style and I´m not pleased with 2nd class tyres:
But my own experiences with the FK510 and FWD-car was the tyre isn´t
any sporty like the old Falken (can´t remember which model was on the
MR2 W1 as OE from Falken) like the ZE502 (which was noisy and bad in
wet).
So we have nothing in common in experiences with tyres :)
BMW are known for tyre-sensitive, personally I never droved BMW with FK510. But if ppl change the FK510 after some weeks because they getting afraid to drive on german no-speedlimit-Autobahn it should be not the best sign.
So we have nothing in common in experiences with tyres :)
BMW are known for tyre-sensitive, personally I never droved BMW with FK510. But if ppl change the FK510 after some weeks because they getting afraid to drive on german no-speedlimit-Autobahn it should be not the best sign.
Well ..that's a bold statement:)
Maybe you shed some light here..what car or cars did you drive or drove tyres wise... I've been driving for about 20 years..and had many cars.
Honda Accord 2.0 Saloon, Honda Integra DC2 Toyota Soarer 2.5 Twin Turbo ,MR2 Turbo Rev2 Ans N/A 156 Bhp,Mitsubishi Lancer 1.6 Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 Sport..Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 Sport Converted to Evo7 just FWD..Mitsubishi Lancer Cedia 1.8gdi
On the top of that..I've been working in the garage for about 18 years..went through many tyres and test drives.
I wouldn't say..that BMW are known for tyre-sensitive compare to MR2 Turbo lol. You know I don't have traction control...no ABS..no stability system. In fact it will be harder to drive MR2 then BMW dry or wet.
I don't know where you get that info that people change the FK510 after some weeks because they getting afraid to drive on german no-speedlimit-Autobahn it should be not the best sign.
Autobahn it's straights...and I'm talking about mixture of straight and twisty roads on FK510 must be something wrong with BMW then. LoL
FK510 on a M2 - https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I've watched that video already.. However I wouldn't call it 'The ULTIMATE tyre test!' I'm sure you know why.Thanks
If there's a more ultimate test on Youtube I'd love to see it as inspiration!
How about this one?? https://youtu.be/inpP8OIno70 It's old but will give you a rough idea!
By the way..girls will be nice too:)
Also know it and especially the subjective dry handling of the FK510 confirm my experience with the FK510.
On what car? BMW Vw Fiat Punto..Trabant,Ferrari ??
VW Passat 2.0 TDI
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Also know it and especially the subjective dry handling of the FK510 confirm my experience with the FK510
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VW Passat 2.0 TDI ??lol What a coincidence! Are kidding me lol?? If you remember I've mentioned that I replace my FK510 on my MR2 Turbo when they down to 3mm...and guess when they going to after?? To VW Passat TDI 2006 PD BKC Engine..they guy is over the moon with the tyres..and he dosn't drive like sissy. OMG :)
Here is the picture of VW Passat just in case you wonder. It suffered T.belt failure..but will be back on the road shortly:) https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
You don´t have no stability sytem, I know. But BMWs system is VERY sensitive. You will feel it if you change only 2 tyres, especially you will mount it on the rear axis. You will see a always blinking sign for the stability systemand don´t try to far fast on corners.
However, never drove the FK510 on a BMW, but I know about BMWs problems with some tyres.
You wouldn't know if I didn't told you. Many MR2 came with ABS system and Traction Control as standard, mine is simple Rev2 Turbo.
Where only 2 tyres come from?? If that's the case then change all four! I'm still looking for the info regarding:
''ppl change the FK510 after some weeks because they getting afraid to drive on german no-speedlimit-Autobahn it should be not the best sign.''
p.s Just really surprised..lol
I only want to tell you BMW are sensitive with some tyres, the stability system don´t like every tyre combination.
I don´t drive actually a BMW, maybe never will again, I have for reasons for it.
Around 70% of German Autobahn havenospeedlimit, that´s the reason why ppl from other countries come here to drive the max. speed of their cars. Most BMWs are limited to 250km/h but that´s not slow You will have a much different feeling to drive 120km/h.
I've already heard that..you don't have to repeat it.
What I've asked you it's a simple question,on numerous time..where did you get that from:
''ppl change the FK510 after some weeks because they getting afraid to drive on german no-speedlimit-Autobahn it should be not the best sign.''
p.s I would assume that people who would come to Germany to drive their car to the max speed would be the Nurburgring
In Germans biggest car-forum, Motor-Talk
Nurburgring for max. speed? Lol. Still a dangerous race circuit and no straight lane is as long as an Autobahn is.
And this is my last answer to you, it feels more and more senseless to talk to someone who thinks he is right and all others are wrong.
Do you have a link??
Well...that's it's a perfect excuse to weasel out lol.
But the P Zero, at least with temperatures over 10°C, was the best tyre in the wet I ever had, in the dry also good.
Compare to which tyres? Also Nankang NS2 will be pretty much on par with P Zero in 10°C..but at the fraction of cost and last longer. lol
On this car I drove also the summer tyres Conti Premium Contact 2, Bridgestone RE002, Goodyear F1 Asy. 3.
Here are some reviews from 2015 (the year I bought it)
https://www.tyrereviews.co....
https://www.tyrereviews.co....
https://www.tyrereviews.co....
https://www.tyrereviews.co....
https://www.tyrereviews.co....
Nankang? I think the wet-performance of actual Nankang is on the level Pirelli hat 15 years ago.
Here are some newer reviews of Nankang.
https://www.tyrereviews.co....
https://www.tyrereviews.co....
Even the Cinturato blast them away and this is a tyre for many miles not for top grip.
On what car?? Thanks for the links but I don't need them as I already check them out long time ago.All this magazine test staff are more advert rather then tests..
Testing at Pirelli's Vizzola facility near Milan,Testing at Continentals test track in Texas,
Those test do Not represents Real Life Road Condition as of UK to begin with,and is very important! There is no uneven surface on the track,no bumps,some roughness on the road, greasy asphalt after the rain..etc.
Even after 15 years..there is no much difference between them,apart from price.
Nothing is real ;)
Everytime I read experiences of many ppl with tyre Xo or Y. Some write best tyre they ever had, the next one wrote his old, metal-hart no-tread tyre was still better.
However, my real-life experiences with the P Zero in wet-cornering show me it´s a very strong tyre in the wet. The reviews say the same.
If you know these tests why you are wondering about my good experiences and compare the fantastic P Zero to a dangerous Nankang?!?
You can´t test any tyre itself if you aren´t a tyre tester. So you will have no idea which tyre is good for you till you try it by yourself. Except you know some ppl personally who maybe drive the same roads in a similar car with a similar drve style.
I drive a Focus 2.0 TDCi since some years and have now my 4th set of tyres.
Well that's subjective:)
That's why I don't relay on the reviews of the biased magazines test..in fact they contradict to each other.
Regarding the: why I compare the fantastic P Zero to a dangerous Nankang?!?
Have you actually read reviews?? Not the Auto Bild Summer Tyre Test crap!
Just people reviews? Like nankang...some will prize them some call overprice crap.
Well, all ppls reviews are subjektive. Don´t know anyone which perform brake testing or lap times objective, including me :)
If I can drive faster in corners than most of other ppl, even if they own a faster car, bigger tyres and still feeling safety, taht´s enough for me.
Auto Bild isn´t my No.1 in reviews, but I like they give unknown brands a chance with their 50-tyre-braking-tests. Don´t know any other magazine which do that.
Well,subjective or objective?? Can we speak in plain English? I repeat again Auto Bild test are useless in real life road condition with their 50-tyre-braking-tests.
And what's the benefit to you anyway?? You are seemingly in to top premium brands..?don't you?
Thanks
You can´t test any tyre itself if you aren´t a tyre tester. So you will have no idea which tyre is good for you till you try it by yourself. Except you know some ppl personally who maybe drive the same roads in a similar car with a similar drve style.
The first part is a little bit confusing..lol I'm the tyre tester! Every review I've post or made is base on personal experience and owning the tyres or drove the car with the tyres.
Here is the example with proof..Mitsubishi Lancer Sport 2.0 135bhp converted to Evo7 260-270 bhp fwd quaife ATB lsd.
So all 4 tyres Uniroyal Rainsport 3 205 50 16...on dry is ok on wet will spin the wheels in every gear...front wear out. Replaced wit Nankang NS2..don't feel much difference.. apart from the price! https://uploads.disquscdn.c... https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
"After the MXV3A Michelinbuild many tyres which were only good at dry and in tyre life, but bad or awful in the wet. ."
It just that the Michelin Energy are design for rolling resistance and longevity, but Michelin never stopped making other tyres with much better wet grip like the Primacy and Pilot.
You can't compare a Michelin energy with a P7 or a Turanza, it is to be compared with a P1, Ecopia or EcoContact ;)
Yeahh, I know ;)
But some Michelin UHP like Pilot Sport, Pilot Exalto, SX MXX 3, Primacy HP, Pilot Primacy, SX-GT, XGTV were mediocre or more worse in the wet. PS2 and PSS were competitive at release but after some years the competition beat them clearly in the wet .
Not sure if you remember these tyres, but I´m driving cars for almost 30 yaers now and had many tyres :)
But I guess it´s what the ppl want from Michelin: Very good at dry and long lifetime. Michelin changed this with PS3 and ppl here hate this tyre because it don´t was durable like the PS2, nobody cared about the better wet performance.
Maybe I exaggerated with "awful" but Michelin was and is the most expensive tyre you can buy and if it only mediocre at wet it´s to bad for the price.
Great video.
Do you plan to include the Pilot Sport 4 when you do the 16" touring tyre test? It's available in 205/55R16 and would be great to see how it stacks up against the Primacy 4, Premium Contact 6, EfficientGrip Performance 2 and Wetproof.
When you do tests in the future, would it be possible to state the approx. temperature that they were conducted at? This would be useful to compare against the data in the 0-15deg winter tyre test released earlier in the year.
Thanks again for the great insights you provide for tyre nuts like me!
I only have the Primacy 4 in the 16" test, there wasn't enough room for two tyres from the same brand, and that seemed to be the more fitting tyre. It is in the 18" test though, just not against the tyres you want. Perhaps I can do something with Michelin on the subject.
I plan to make the temperature a feature in future videos :)
I would really like something like:
Primacy 4 E vs Primacy 4 vs Pilot Sport 4
EcoContact 6 vs PremiumContact 6
...
A bit like what you did for UHP cars (PS4/PS4S/PSC2) but for Touring cars with low rolling resistance tyres/premium touring tyres/sport touring tyres.
Two years and 20.000 Kms ago I replaced a set of 4 Dunlops Sport BluResponse for some Michelins Pilot Sport 4 on my Audi A3 (wheel size 205/55R16, but had to settle for the 94Y because the 91Y was not available then). The Dunlops were excellent in the dry but the Michelins are even better. In the wet the Michelins are simply outstanding, giving you a lot of self confidence: in an emergency braking the ABS actuates only at very low speeds and the turn in is absolutely incredible. They are relatively quiet and very confortable, but the fuel consumption went up 0,2L/100Km. Those Dunlops really had very low rolling resistance...
Fit them (if you can afford it) and you will not regret it!
This Dunlop is not made for fastest lap times and can´t be compared directly with an UHP. It´s a touring tyre with, like you wrote, low rolling resistance.
The BlueResponse is also to old, but like I discussed here Dunlop is sadly unattended from Goodyear, no new tyres in the last year while Goodyear brought new models.
The Dunlop Sport BluResponse may not be a UHP tyre and may not be
meant to be used on a track day but, trust me, they really seem like a UHP tyre in the dry either braking or cornering. Maybe that's why Dunlop hasn't released any new model to replace it yet. They lasted 60.000 Kms but after some 40.000 had excessive wear on both edges. I truly recommend them but, since I prefer UHP tyres, I had to choose the only one at 205/55 R16 size (if you consider that the Continental PC6 isn't a UHP tyre).
Both Dunlop Sport Bluresponse and Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance were released in 2013 (first tests recorded by "Tyre reviews"), so maybe next year we hear from Dunlop.
I know the Dunlop is strong in dry but as a touring-tyre it did have softer sidewalls and give not the same subjective feeling in cornering.
PC6 is more a hybrid tyre, somewhere between Touring and UHP.
Many VW-cars (including Audi, Seat, Skoda) have this "Sägezahn-Problem" with tyres, dunno whether the Michelin don´t have it. Some ppl say it help to change left tyre to right, others say it won´t help very long.
I also asked Dunlop für a successor for RT2 and they answer they didn´t know. I´m afraid Goodyear want to focus on the Goodyear-brand and neglect the other brands.