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2022/23 Tyre Reviews Winter Tyre Test

Jonathan Benson
Tested and written by Jonathan Benson
8 min read Updated
Below are all the data points for the 2022/23 Tyre Reviews Winter Tyre Test, displaying how each tyre performed across all test categories. The spider chart below provides a complete overview of performance, where one hundred percent represents the best performance in each category. The larger the area covered by each tyre's plot, the better its overall performance.
How to read these charts: For each test category, data is presented relative to the best performing tire. The direction indicates whether lower or higher values are better - pay close attention to this when interpreting results.

Performance Overview

This radar chart shows relative performance across all test categories, with 100% representing the best performance in each category. Reference tires may have gaps where data is not available.

Petlas Snow Master W651
Kleber Krisalp HP3
Vredestein Wintrac Pro
Michelin Alpin 6
Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
Continental WinterContact TS 870
Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
Semperit Speed Grip 5
Hankook Winter I cept RS3

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Dry Performance Overview

Dry Braking (M)

Spread: 2.80 M (7.7%) | Avg: 38.09 M

Dry braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Michelin Alpin 6 with a result of 36.6 M. The difference between best and worst was 7.1%.
  1. Michelin Alpin 6
    36.6 M
  2. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    36.9 M
  3. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    37.5 M
  4. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    37.6 M
  5. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    37.8 M
  6. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    38.4 M
  7. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    39.2 M
  8. Petlas Snow Master W651
    39.4 M
  9. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    39.4 M

Dry Handling (s)

Spread: 2.10 s (2.6%) | Avg: 80.42 s

Dry handling time in seconds (Lower is better)

Key Insight: All the tyres in the dry handling test finished less than 3% apart.
  1. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    79.8 s
  2. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    79.9 s
  3. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    79.9 s
  4. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    80.2 s
  5. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    80.3 s
  6. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    80.4 s
  7. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    80.7 s
  8. Michelin Alpin 6
    80.7 s
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    81.9 s

Subj. Dry Handling ( Points)

Spread: 30.00 Points (30%) | Avg: 87.22 Points

Subjective Dry Handling Score (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2 with a result of 100 Points. The difference between best and worst was 30%.
  1. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    100 Points
  2. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    95 Points
  3. Michelin Alpin 6
    90 Points
  4. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    90 Points
  5. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    90 Points
  6. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    85 Points
  7. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    85 Points
  8. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    80 Points
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    70 Points

Wet Performance Overview

Wet Braking (M)

Spread: 12.20 M (44.7%) | Avg: 31.27 M

Wet braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Bridgestone Blizzak LM005 with a result of 27.3 M. The difference between best and worst was 30.9%.
  1. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    27.3 M
  2. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    27.6 M
  3. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    28.2 M
  4. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    29.5 M
  5. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    30.4 M
  6. Michelin Alpin 6
    31.8 M
  7. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    32.3 M
  8. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    34.8 M
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    39.5 M

Wet Handling (s)

Spread: 14.80 s (15.3%) | Avg: 100.99 s

Wet handling time in seconds (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Bridgestone Blizzak LM005 with a result of 97 s. The difference between best and worst was 13.2%.
  1. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    97 s
  2. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    97.7 s
  3. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    98.8 s
  4. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    99 s
  5. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    99 s
  6. Michelin Alpin 6
    100.6 s
  7. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    102.2 s
  8. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    102.8 s
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    111.8 s

Subj. Wet Handling ( Points)

Spread: 90.00 Points (90%) | Avg: 82.22 Points

Subjective Wet Handling Score (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Bridgestone Blizzak LM005 with a result of 100 Points. The difference between best and worst was 90%.
  1. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    100 Points
  2. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    100 Points
  3. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    95 Points
  4. Michelin Alpin 6
    90 Points
  5. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    90 Points
  6. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    85 Points
  7. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    85 Points
  8. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    85 Points
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    10 Points

Straight Aqua (Km/H)

Spread: 12.30 Km/H (14.7%) | Avg: 79.54 Km/H

Float Speed in Km/H (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Kleber Krisalp HP3 with a result of 83.5 Km/H. The difference between best and worst was 14.7%.
  1. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    83.5 Km/H
  2. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    82.4 Km/H
  3. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    81.8 Km/H
  4. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    81.3 Km/H
  5. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    80 Km/H
  6. Michelin Alpin 6
    79.9 Km/H
  7. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    78.9 Km/H
  8. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    76.9 Km/H
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    71.2 Km/H

Curved Aquaplaning (m/sec2)

Spread: 3.30 m/sec2 (40.7%) | Avg: 7.03 m/sec2

Remaining lateral acceleration (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Continental WinterContact TS 870 with a result of 8.1 m/sec2. The difference between best and worst was 40.7%.
  1. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    8.1 m/sec2
  2. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    8 m/sec2
  3. Michelin Alpin 6
    7.6 m/sec2
  4. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    7.3 m/sec2
  5. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    7.1 m/sec2
  6. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    7.1 m/sec2
  7. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    6.8 m/sec2
  8. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    6.5 m/sec2
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    4.8 m/sec2

Snow Performance Overview

Snow Braking (M)

Spread: 2.40 M (8.8%) | Avg: 28.48 M

Snow braking in meters (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Kleber Krisalp HP3 with a result of 27.2 M. The difference between best and worst was 8.1%.
  1. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    27.2 M
  2. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    27.2 M
  3. Petlas Snow Master W651
    27.8 M
  4. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    27.8 M
  5. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    28.9 M
  6. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    29.1 M
  7. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    29.3 M
  8. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    29.4 M
  9. Michelin Alpin 6
    29.6 M

Snow Traction (s)

Spread: 0.70 s (14.9%) | Avg: 5.06 s

Snow acceleration time (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Petlas Snow Master W651 with a result of 4.7 s. The difference between best and worst was 13%.
  1. Petlas Snow Master W651
    4.7 s
  2. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    4.7 s
  3. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    4.9 s
  4. Michelin Alpin 6
    5.1 s
  5. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    5.1 s
  6. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    5.1 s
  7. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    5.1 s
  8. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    5.4 s
  9. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    5.4 s

Snow Handling (s)

Spread: 6.30 s (5.6%) | Avg: 115.26 s

Snow handling time in seconds (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Petlas Snow Master W651 with a result of 112.2 s. The difference between best and worst was 5.3%.
  1. Petlas Snow Master W651
    112.2 s
  2. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    113.3 s
  3. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    113.6 s
  4. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    114.9 s
  5. Michelin Alpin 6
    115.6 s
  6. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    116.2 s
  7. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    116.5 s
  8. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    116.5 s
  9. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    118.5 s

Subj. Snow Handling ( Points)

Spread: 15.00 Points (15%) | Avg: 92.78 Points

Subjective Snow Handling Score (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Petlas Snow Master W651 with a result of 100 Points. The difference between best and worst was 15%.
  1. Petlas Snow Master W651
    100 Points
  2. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    100 Points
  3. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    100 Points
  4. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    95 Points
  5. Michelin Alpin 6
    90 Points
  6. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    90 Points
  7. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    90 Points
  8. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    85 Points
  9. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    85 Points

Comfort Performance Overview

Subj. Comfort ( Points)

Spread: 15.00 Points (15%) | Avg: 92.78 Points

Subjective Comfort Score (Higher is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Michelin Alpin 6 with a result of 100 Points. The difference between best and worst was 15%.
  1. Michelin Alpin 6
    100 Points
  2. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    100 Points
  3. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    100 Points
  4. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    90 Points
  5. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    90 Points
  6. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    90 Points
  7. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    90 Points
  8. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    90 Points
  9. Petlas Snow Master W651
    85 Points

Noise (dB)

Spread: 1.30 dB (1.9%) | Avg: 69.30 dB

Internal noise in dB (Lower is better)

Key Insight: All the tyres in the noise test finished less than 3% apart.
  1. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    68.5 dB
  2. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    68.9 dB
  3. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    69.1 dB
  4. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    69.2 dB
  5. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    69.3 dB
  6. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    69.5 dB
  7. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    69.6 dB
  8. Petlas Snow Master W651
    69.8 dB
  9. Michelin Alpin 6
    69.8 dB

Value Performance Overview

Price

Spread: 66.49 (66.5%) | Avg: 139.82

Price in local currency (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Petlas Snow Master W651. The difference between best and worst was 39.9%.
  1. Petlas Snow Master W651
    100
  2. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    119.39
  3. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    119.99
  4. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    135.69
  5. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    135.89
  6. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    151.39
  7. Michelin Alpin 6
    163.59
  8. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    165.99
  9. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    166.49

Rolling Resistance (kg / t)

Spread: 2.50 kg / t (37.3%) | Avg: 8.46 kg / t

Rolling resistance in kg t (Lower is better)

Key Insight: The best performer was Petlas Snow Master W651 with a result of 6.7 kg / t. The difference between best and worst was 27.2%.
  1. Petlas Snow Master W651
    6.7 kg / t
  2. Bridgestone Blizzak LM005
    8 kg / t
  3. Semperit Speed Grip 5
    8.2 kg / t
  4. Continental WinterContact TS 870
    8.4 kg / t
  5. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    8.8 kg / t
  6. Hankook Winter I cept RS3
    8.8 kg / t
  7. Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2
    8.9 kg / t
  8. Michelin Alpin 6
    9.1 kg / t
  9. Vredestein Wintrac Pro
    9.2 kg / t

Overall Findings

Based on the weighted scoring from all tests, here are the overall results:

Position Tyre Score
Bridgestone Blizzak LM005 93.1%
2 Continental WinterContact TS 870 92.1%
3 Hankook Winter I cept RS3 91.2%
4 Pirelli Cinturato Winter 2 90.2%
5 Semperit Speed Grip 5 89.3%
6 Vredestein Wintrac Pro 89.1%
7 Michelin Alpin 6 89%
8 Kleber Krisalp HP3 88.3%
9 Petlas Snow Master W651 85%

Test Winner

Petlas Snow Master W651
Petlas Snow Master W651

85%

Discussion

98 comments
  1. Tranquility archived

    Does anyone know why tires in size 215/50/r17 are so much more expensive than 225/45/r17? The difference is often almost a quarter of the price. It used to be a rarely used size, but nowadays you see 215/50/r17 on more and more vehicles, including many EVs, so it is no longer a rare size.

    #9068
    1. TyreReviews Tranquility archived

      225/50 is still a way less popular size than 225/45 so I believe it's still supply and demand.

      #9071
  2. James archived

    For a mild winter that is often seen in southern England, do you recommend using a winter biased all season tyre during the winter to get better wet/dry grip or is it still best to use a winter tyre?

    #9063
    1. Jakub Kotecki James archived

      The same thought is running through my head. I live in Poland and most of the winter-tyre season it's about 5-10 degrees C with occasional slushy snow. Currently i'm on Goodyear assymetric 6, but don't know what is the best option for me, especially in terms of wear during long, "hot" highway voyages

      #9065
    2. TyreReviews James archived

      I'd use a summer bias all season tyre.

      #9074
  3. clmentpetit archived

    Hello,
    Do you know which one has the best wear ?

    #8819
    1. TyreReviews clmentpetit archived

      I did not test wear sadly, the Auto Bild test this year did, worth checking out

      #8820
  4. AL archived

    Hi Johnatan, great video, as usual.
    I have a question.... Which is the difference between the Hankook Winter Icept Evo3 (W330) and the Hankook Winter Icept RS3 (W462) ... because in this vídeo you try the W462, but on the later winter tyre test video you tried the W330 (https://www.tyrereviews.com...

    Thank you very much!

    #8688
    1. TyreReviews AL archived

      The Evo 3 is more performance bias and available in larger wheel sizes.

      #8690
  5. Rick Richards archived

    Any plans to test the new Pirelli Weatheractive anytime soon?

    #8650
    1. TyreReviews Rick Richards archived

      I would like to, it probably won't be soon though :(

      #8653
  6. Petr Fiedler archived

    Dear Johnatan,
    With many of the tests you publish I wonder how much the tyre pressure influences the results. I assume that for the tests you use tyre presessures prescribed for the vehicle by the manufacturer, however sometimes the manufacturer recommends more than one option (light load / full load / speeds above 160 km/h etc.) and in such cases which pressure would you use for the tests?

    Please, would it be possible in the future to have a test where you would show how much tyre pressure influences the results? On my car I have noticed that even 0,2 bar (3 psi) deviation makes a difference as for handling and +0,4 bar starts to have negative impact on ride comfort.

    Just to make sure my pressures are not too low even when the temperature drops I prefer to have +0,1 bar above the manufacturer recommendation, but I would love to learn what I loose and what I gain when I deviate from the prescribed pressures (-0,2 bar, +0,2 bar, front axle/rear axle, both axles). Would be the change in udersteer/oversteer significant for you dry/wet lap times and dry/wet braking distances?

    Increased pressures are good for fuel economy, however at some pressure we start to lose safety and comfort. A tyre pressure focused video would be highly appreciated.
    -----
    As an engineer I really apreciate how in-depth information you try to provide. Tyrereviews are a real gem. In the past years I have purchased quite a lot of tyres for my family based on your tests and reviews. With the Michelin PS4 you even convinced me to give Michelin a second chance. After my repeated experience with Michelin Primacy (version 2003 - horrible on wet, average on dry, 2008 - bad on wet, average on dry) I have said "never ever Michelin". However, you were right and I was very happy with the Michelin PS4.
    Thank You and Happy New Year 2023!

    #8595
    1. TyreReviews Petr Fiedler archived

      Happy new year! We usually use the standard load pressures, not the higher. We generate more heat than usual so I like to start as low as the car recommends.

      I've actually tried to do a tyre pressure test a number of times but not had much luck with the final result. It's definitely high on the list. A very interesting subject but I think application can vary the results quite a lot!

      #8605
  7. Shaan archived

    Hi, What was the temperature during dry and wet tests?

    #8563
  8. Dario archived

    This is a great test. But... how do you test winter tires and not include Nokian?

    #8554
    1. TyreReviews Dario archived

      Their CE winter tyre was made in Russia so not really available at the moment.

      #8560
  9. Sabri Altunkaya archived

    Waiting for your comments on a topic. Since the performance of winter tires on dry roads is bad, which tire should be preferred in a place where it is usually cold (below 7 degrees) in winter but generally dry or wet roads. Thanks for answer.

    #8511
    1. Marek Sabri Altunkaya archived

      I have the same question. Winter tyres are mostly tested on snow. Where I'm at (Central Europe) I do very little driving on snow -- and it is mostly the last few hundred meters leading to a mountain hut. I'd rather not sacrifice safety on 99% of the roads I drive in winter by using winter tyres.

      In other words, what tyre would be best for winter (not summer), cold temperatures (generally between -5 and +10°C) with dry or wet (salted) roads? Is it still a winter tyre, or should I get an all season tyre to drive with between November and April?

      #8516
      1. Kolemjdouci Marek archived

        Premium all season tyre is the solution requested, ideally bought just before or during the winter season.

        #8529
    2. Slobodan Sabri Altunkaya archived

      Summer tyres work better then winter tyres on the dry and wet at temperatures above 0 and bellow +7 degrees C. It is a rule of thumb that you should switch to winter tyres once the *average day temperature* is bellow +7 degrees C.

      #8643
      1. TyreReviews Slobodan archived

        I think you might have gotten that a little backwards. Winter tyres generally start working better in t he wet around 7c, more realistically 3-5c. In the dry the summer tyre will be better no matter what the temperature is.

        #8644
        1. Slobodan TyreReviews archived

          In the wet, OK. I meant it more in the sense of in a no snow/ice conditions.

          #8704
  10. Scour archived

    A request for future tyre tests: Can you please make photos of the tyres on the rim because of rim protection bar? I searched for information on it but it´s impossible to find. Many manufacturers are write their tyres have a RPB but on some tyres you don´t see much of it.

    The only tyre I know with a very good RBP in 225/45R17 is the LM005, I see it live at my brothers car

    #8506
    1. Tranquility Scour archived

      II completely agree with this suggestion. It is incredibly difficult to find information about whether tires have rim protection and to what extent. I currently have Bridgestone Blizzak LM005 that are almost due for replacement and have beautiful thick rim protection, which makes these tires look very nice on the rim. Unfortunately, they make a lot of noise and I want to choose a different brand and possibly switch to all-weather tires (CrossClimate 2 for example) for my winter rims because I live in a very mild climate (the Netherlands) with hardly any snow. I don't understand why information about rim protection is so difficult to find. Even writing to tire manufacturers does not provide much clarity. So showing this clearly when testing tires would be a big plus!

      #9067
      1. TyreReviews Tranquility archived

        I try and list rim protection metrics with the results in all of my tests, though i have forgotten it.

        Pictures are very hard to get across though the last UHP test I posted a reel on instagram of all the rim protection.

        #9072
  11. Scour archived

    I try to get my infos from the video but I´m not sure if I get it right.

    Have the Hankook and Pirelli a big or small Rim Protection Bar?

    #8486
    1. TyreReviews Scour archived

      I rather stupidly didn't rate this for the winters, but looking at the photos the unmounted photos hankook looks larger than the Pirelli.

      This will hopefully help you:

      https://imgur.com/a/N0H7Qnq

      #8489
      1. Scour TyreReviews archived

        Yep, Thanks.

        The Hankook is now my favorite, also because to get a Pirelli DOT2622 or newer is a gamble

        #8491
  12. Nikolas archived

    Hello, I was waiting for a comparison of winter and all season tyres, but it's getting time to make the decision for me and I can't wait much longer.
    What would you recommend for a fwd passanger car for winter season (I have 2 sets of wheels) for this use:
    Mostly weekend trips to mountains in Central Europe (Czechia) - 95% dry/wet and final few kilometers can be snowy and sometimes difficult to climb. Snow climbing capability can mean the difference between getting there or stopping on a side of the road and putting snow chains on.
    Could Michelin Cross Climate 2 do it, or should I rather go with Brigestone Blizzak or Continental Winter Contact or anything else?
    It won't be driven in summer.
    The car is Renault Laguna 3 grandtour diesel, tyre size 205/50-R17.
    Thank you.

    #8484
    1. Kolemjdouci Nikolas archived

      If you are ready (anyway very, very rarely, if at all) to use the front 2 snow chains then also all seasons tyres fit very well. In those 95% dry/wet the new top all seasons Michelin Cross Climate 2 (or Hankook, Conti, GY, Dunlop or Bridge equivalent) will be better to much better, and in the remaining very rarely 5% they will be only around 15% worse than the real winter tyres. But the Czech streets, even in the small mountains are pretty well maintained, so I would go and choose the fresh smelling Michelin Cross Climate 2! You can then safely cover also the autumn and the spring and therefore your summer tyres will last more years. You will be positively surprised!, especially due to the global warming and more and more soft weather conditions...

      #8487
      1. TyreReviews Kolemjdouci archived

        I've a video coming pretty much concluding the same :)

        #8490
        1. Marek TyreReviews archived

          Cool! When is that video coming up? I cannot wait much longer, have to make a purchase asap. Thanks!

          #8517
          1. TyreReviews Marek archived

            On the channel now, I'm not sure if it's what you were after but it's what I meant :)

            #8518
      2. Istvan Kallai Kolemjdouci archived

        I am dropping my Michelin Crossclimate 2 after one year and 15K of use. Wear is insane, it is down to 4mm, both front tyres show minor structural shoulder/upper sidewall unevenness (interrior structural damage?). Yes I have had the car to alignment twice. Never had a problem with my Crossclimate+ but I am moving away from Michelin and probably from all-seasons in general. Summer heat in Central Europe and highway speeds is killing it. The thermic shock is too much for the compound. For city trips as a second car or in tempered summer climate should probably be fine.

        #9153
        1. TyreReviews Istvan Kallai archived

          The cc2 certainly isn't the best wearing tyre michelin have ever made. I'm sure there will be a big improvement with the CC3.

          #9159
    2. TyreReviews Nikolas archived

      Based on my experience, the CC2 could do it for sure. The full winter will give you a few percent more but it's not night and day.

      #8488
  13. Pau archived

    Wow I just found a bunch of useful info on the comment section.

    I'm really torn between the a005 evo and the lm005. It's so close! I'll change back to the eagle f1 in the summer anyway so warm weather performance is of no concern. However as I will only drive on snow 1 or 2 days a year it seems like the a005 would provide a bit more fun during winter.

    With my previous winter tyre I had the confidence that the tyre would always grip when it was dark and couldn't really see the road. Would hit puddles, mud, etc and the car would still grip.

    Would the a005 evo provide that or should I look at the lm005?

    #8482
    1. Kolemjdouci Pau archived

      If you would only drive 1-2 days on snow then surely prefer A005 Evo.

      #8499
        1. Kolemjdouci Pau archived

          There will always be a tyre, which, in extreme situation test, breaks better than yours.

          #8502
          1. Pau Kolemjdouci archived

            No i mean. The lm005 beat the a005 in dry and wet.

            #8503
            1. Kolemjdouci Pau archived

              How substantionally, in which temperature? and what about remaining parameters?

              #8504
  14. Andrew Watson archived

    Just noticed that Carwow did a winter traction test on that indoor ski slope people use ... it was so poor.

    We learnt that summer are worse than winter and AWD better than 2WD ... golly.

    They should have gone downhill at least and shown that reduced braking distances in snow are more important than just going as fast as possible from stopped !

    Also, they should at least done an all season on AWD v winters on 2wd ! Mind you it is more Top Gear light entertainment rather than more studious stuff on here.

    You need to ping them and tell them how to do it right !

    Just sayin...

    #8472
      1. Andrew Watson TyreReviews archived

        And lets face it, now 8th November and my all season Yokohamas are once again trying to remove water ..

        Not sure how many bad days with ice we can feel smug on even all season given the trends, at least in England and not Scotland.

        Michelin Climate etc has to be the way to go, and they might get even more wet biased...

        #8510
  15. Ben archived

    Thanks for the great insight you give through your tests and evaluation of other's tests. I've had a good read and I think I've narrowed it down to two tyres that would suit my needs best over winter months.

    I might be over-analysing it but I can't work out whether I'd be best fitting GY Vector 4seasons gen 3 or Vredestein Wintrac Pro.

    It's for the winter wheels in 225-45-17 94v XL square setup for my BMW 330d. I live in Yorkshire. I need to be able to get up and down a steep hill with traffic lights in the snow/ice/slush and then up the motorway for work. I go to Wales and East Anglia over Christmas. I want to be able to use the car's performance in milder winter conditions so I'd like to retain as much of the wet and dry handling characteristics to normal as possible. For summer I have 225-35 and 255-30 staggered 19inch.

    GYs about £100 cheaper for a set, perhaps better suited given most of the time above 0 temps but seem designed for lower powered and lighter cars as a touring tyre and brake poorly in the dry. Vreds designed as UHP and stand out in tests as what I'm after. But with them being winter tyres would they feel less stiff/direct than the GYs most of the time and even perform worse braking in milder temps? Can you offer any advice please?

    #8440
    1. TyreReviews Ben archived

      Both tyres will get you up the hill. As I've not directly compared them it would be tough to give you good advice but given the Goodyears are cheaper and will wear better, that's where my money would go.

      #8444
      1. Ben TyreReviews archived

        Thanks. I did compare their respective outcomes in your 2022 tests (Vred generally better) but wasn't sure how reliable that would be. The Goodyear won the Autobild 2021 all season test on a 3-series so I don't think I'll go far wrong with it. I will update in the spring!

        #8447
  16. Mike archived

    Hi Jonathan, thanks for your work. You cost me a lot of money in tyres over the years! Will there be a review of ultra high Performance winter tyres? I’ve got a 3.2 Mk1 AUDI TT and spend a lot of time on the continent as well as the UK.
    I would rather sacrifice outright performance in the warmer months for winter safety.
    Spirited but not aggressive high speed driving is my style, mostly motorway miles.
    Crucially, I’m more interested in the grippiest tyre on COLD and damp roads, not necessarily “wet” or “dry”. The tarmac and ambient temperatures from Nov-Mar are more of interest to me when it’s consistently cold. I’m interested in the effect of the tyre compound and with only a minor interest in snow.
    What is your opinion please on my 4 choices:
    Eagle Asym 6
    Cross Climate 2
    TS870
    Wintrac Pro
    Or would you push for something more exotic like a P Zero Winter or do you have a personal choice not listed?

    Cold and greasy roads, fast but not aggressive driving, Audi TT, quiet interior noise. Preferably a car specific tyre rather than a generic tyre nominally fitted to unnecessarily heavy vehicles like an SUV.

    Cheers,

    Mike

    #8426
    1. TyreReviews Mike archived

      Bridgestone WeatherControl A005 Evo might be one to look at, a summer bias all season tyre with excellent grip in the wet.

      #8435
      1. Mike TyreReviews archived

        Would you rate that better than the CC2? My wife has the Cross Climate on her A1 and I don’t think it is has the performance necessary for my driving. Do you think the Bridgestone is ultimately gripper on cold damp surfaces, greasy roads not wet roads, than the Asym 6 then? Thanks for your opinion .

        #8439
        1. TyreReviews Mike archived

          Yes, when it's cold and wet the all season tyre should have the advantage.

          #8446
          1. Mike TyreReviews archived

            Perfect, I promise this is the last question:
            Do you think the Weather Control will ultimately out handle an Ultra High Perf winter tyre specifically designed for sports cars? P Zero Winter, Wintrac Pro, 870 P etc.
            I've just found the Cross Climate 2 runs out of grip quickly in anything other than adverse weather and my focus is on cold, damp fast road driving, not a very wet road.

            #8452
            1. TyreReviews Mike archived

              That's a good question, I think it would be very very close and really depend on the situation and tyres.

              #8463
  17. Juror 8 archived

    Hi jonathan, thanks for this extremely well prepared test.

    My questions is, what was the weather temperature while you're dry testing the tyres? My planned usage including too much extreme cold weather dry tarmac driving and cold dry performance is very important for me. Usually I don't take the car out when it snows (not because i don't like driving on snow, because people who can't drive on snow or going out with summer tyres and causing traffic). Basically does the performance on hot surfaces differ greatly from the performance on cold surfaces?

    Finally, do you have any data on winter tires wearing excessively above 7 degrees (on tarmac)?

    Thanks.

    #8420
    1. TyreReviews Juror 8 archived

      Dry was around 20c and sunny. On the road winter tyres shouldn't wear excessively above 7c.

      #8423
  18. Michel de Breyne archived

    Hi, thanks you for doing your tests Jonathan. Your testing and reporting is great.

    I was particularly curious to compare the all-seasons (all-weathers) with the winter tires so appreciate that you tested both (https://www.tyrereviews.com... and https://www.tyrereviews.com....

    Were the tests performed in similar conditions? I was expecting that the all-weathers would have an advantage on dry and wet but based on your results, for wet and dry braking, the winter tyres had the advantage (althought the handling numbers were slightly better for the all-weathers) and for snow braking, your chart above says 45-5 km/h for the winter while your all-weather snow-braking was 40-5 km/h and the winters beat the all-weathers (which I expected) but if it's from a faster speed, that's a much more significant difference.

    Let us know. Thanks.

    #8412
    1. TyreReviews Michel de Breyne archived

      There was quite a swing in snow temperature testing, I need to run the evolution of the control and explain that somewhere.

      #8424
  19. Jakub archived

    Hi,
    I wonder how we should regard EU tyre labels. I'm searching silent tyre.

    Kleber Krisalp HP3: EU label 69 dB, in you test 69,1 dB --> seams clear
    Continental WinterContact: EU label 70 dB, in you test 69,5 dB --> seams clear
    but:
    Bridgestone Blizzak LM005: EU label 71 dB, in you test 68,9 dB --> 2 dB difference
    Vredestein Wintrac Pro: EU label 72 dB, in you test 69,2 dB --> 3 dB difference

    Why we have such differences?

    I should rather focus on UE labels or test results?

    #8383
    1. Engineer_Andy Jakub archived

      I suspect that the tests may measure different things (I think that the UE labels show external noise [no use to people inside the car] rather than internal noise) or under different conditions (different car tested w[hich might affect how much sound is damped], maybe the UE ones under 'lab' rather than real-world conditions)?

      #8393
      1. TyreReviews Engineer_Andy archived

        EU does do external noise, a lot of tests do too though (not this one), it's not run in a lab, it's run on a set surface outside

        #8394
    2. TyreReviews Jakub archived

      I tested internal noise on this test, EU label is external. Sound can be directed into the car to get a lower EU label.

      #8399
  20. Florin Bogdan archived

    Hello,
    In your test Bridgestone's dry braking is the worst and in the Auto Zeitung is the 2nd best .
    In your test Bridgestone is 1st at braking on snow when tested by Auto Zeitung is not at the top.
    Any idea why that happened ? Thanks.

    #8377
  21. Andrzej archived

    Nice work! Unfortunately Continental WinterContact TS 870 aren't provided for 255/35/R19 size and for this size there is only previous model available - TS 860 S.

    What would you recommend for that size? I live in Poland and average temperature in winter is around 0C, the main roads are mostly scraped to the asphalt and in addition there is salt, often there is a lot of slush. However, there can be some snowy days and temperature can go really low sometimes and especially on b-roads it can be not so comfortable.

    Still many people drive here with all seasons tyres but I'm afraid about those snowy days and icy roads that can sometimes be expected. The car is Audi A5 2017 quattro, 252HP.

    It seems that I should choose from Continental TS 860 S (older ones), Blizzak LM005 and Hankook Winter I cept RS3.

    #8359
    1. TyreReviews Andrzej archived

      I really like the RS3, so I'd probably go for that even if the LM005 won my test. I just prefered how it drove in the three conditions overall.

      #8360
  22. Steve archived

    Are the results from this test directly comparable to the 2022 all season test?
    If so, most of the winter tyres seem to be better in the wet and dry than the all season tyres!

    #8355
    1. TyreReviews Steve archived

      There were different test conditions for each days of testing, I will make a video comparing the two properly

      #8356
      1. Engineer_Andy TyreReviews archived

        Useful for those considering (especially under the current economic conditions) whether its worth changing to, say, winter-bised all season tyres than having to buy/store a set of summers + winters and smaller wheels. As you've said quite a bit in the past 2-3 years, all-season tyres have come on a LOT.

        #8384
  23. AnylVaccines KillBabies archived

    I have winter Sebring SUV SNOW All time (summer-winter) in my Jeep and no problem, price 83€ one tyre. ?

    #8354
  24. _ _ archived

    Interesting how price can by different in different country's

    For ex I made price chart for Poland,
    1. Petlas - 944 pln for a set
    2. Hankook - 1034 pln
    3. Semprit 1068 pln
    4. Kleber 1100 pln
    5. Michelin 1376 pln
    6. Pirelli 1379 pln
    7. Bridgestone 1384 pln
    8. Continental 1392 pln
    X. Vredestein - this particular model in unavailable

    The biggest difference is at bridgestone.. it's more expensive here than pirelli or michelin, and almost the same price as continental, which is the most expensive tire.

    #8349
    1. TyreReviews _ _ archived

      Some of it can also be down to supply and demand, and where the retailer used it sourcing stock from, but historically Michelin is one of the most expensive so that's a surprising list! Thanks for sharing

      #8352
  25. Scour archived

    Great work :)

    The Hankook and Pirelli are on my list

    #8341
      1. Scour TyreReviews archived

        Had to change because it´s easier for me to switch to 18" rims, so the iCept Evo³ would be my choice instead of the RS3. I think this is also a very good tyre.

        The Pirelli is a bit risky, my dealer can´t guarantee the DOT.

        #8467
  26. Sale archived

    Hi Jonathan! I was eagerly anticipating this test to come out. Thank you!
    I noticed there is no Goodyear in the written results (only in video).

    Despite I watched all your winter and all season reviews, I m still in dilemma: should i go:
    - winter (Conti 870 P, Blizzak LM005, GY UltraGrip Performance +) or
    - all season ( Conti AllSeasonContact, GY Vector 4 Seasons Gen-3, Bridgestone Weather Control A005)
    for Tiguan first gen. Also what size do you recommend: 235/55/17 or 215/60/17 , both are factory for him.

    I m not Michelin fan, i feel like they are cheating with the thread depth, plus it looks like there is too big hype and marketing involved in CC2 reviews everywhere. Some users reports increased fuel consumption and rough ride. But if you honestly recommend them, i could try it ( i never ride all season tires)

    Weather conditions here are sort of similar to yours, but some years could be really snowy. The roads are mostly scraped to the tarmac plus they put salt, so we end up with a lot of slush (except on some b-roads and parking lots)

    Whit that being said, i would say: all seasons are for me. Most of the winter, temps are around -5 to 15C (20C) , but the problem is that we also have few months with low temps like -15C or less, and I m not sure how all seasons would behave on such temps on icy/snow roads. My main concern is safety, then comfort, fuel efficient... and i like to drive dynamically :)

    Hope that you can get a good, full picture and that you could help me with decision.

    Thank you for all. Cheers!

    #8335
    1. TyreReviews Sale archived

      I would probably go with the TS870P, they're very all season like for a winter tyre, and dynamically they should be amongst the best. That said, the allseasoncontact was surprisingly nice feeling in my 17" test this year.

      As for size, if both are allowed I would go with whatever is cheaper, but if you enjoy driving, the 235/55 should feel a little more sporty everything else being equal.

      #8338
      1. Sale TyreReviews archived

        Thank you! TS870P were my secret favorite :)

        Cheers!

        #8342
        1. TyreReviews Sale archived

          Good :) Let me know how you find them!

          #8344
          1. Sale TyreReviews archived

            They arrived. For now, they smell great! :D
            Temps are still going from 5C to 25C so I'll have to be more patient to put them on the car and check...

            #8430
            1. TyreReviews Sale archived

              Fantastic :D

              #8432
    2. Enrico Azzoni Sale archived

      I am also not a great Michelin fan, but how do they cheat regarding the thread depth ? it is similar to all the other tyres, or I am missing something.

      #8361
      1. TyreReviews Enrico Azzoni archived

        They don't cheat, generally their compounding wears better than competition so they can start with less tread and in theory get the same or more mileage.

        #8362
        1. Enrico Azzoni TyreReviews archived

          Thank you for the explanation by the way what happened to Dunlop they seem to have disappeared from test comparison with no new models since long time with last year all season tyre being their last product absent from major tests.

          #8365
          1. TyreReviews Enrico Azzoni archived

            Goodyear are focusing on Goodyear as they don't own the Dunlop brand world wide.

            #8366
      2. Sale Enrico Azzoni archived

        Hi, my opinion is based on the fact that Michelin tires have ~1 mm less tread depth than Continental while it weighs 1kg more (exact values vary between models, of course but this is a rule of thumb: less tread depth more weight). Most of the tests are done with brand new tires, and some results greatly depend on the tread dept, so If Conti can accomplish similar results (with deeper treads) as Michelin, in a year or two, when it wears, it will get even better results.
        I m not covering too many miles a year (8k-10k, and less than half of that on winter tires) so I'm not interested in tire mileage (i will change it after ~5-6 years anyway) but rather how I spend those miles.
        Again this is just my personal opinion.
        Cheers!

        #8414
        1. Enrico Azzoni Sale archived

          thank you for the answer
          this is very interesting insight; I tend to drive more than 30k per year and 15k approximately on winter tyres, currently I have the Bridgestone Blizzak LM 005 but I need to equip the other family car with winter tyres in november/december, for someone like me who wears tyres in 2/3 years what would be better the deep tread ones or shallow tread ones ?
          best regards

          #8415
          1. Sale Enrico Azzoni archived

            I couldn't find the link for my previous comment but here it is, the last year's winter test: https://www.tyrereviews.com...
            you can see what I was talking about weight and tread depth.
            Michelin Pilot Alpin 5: Weight: 10.10kgs; Tread: 7.6mm
            Goodyear UltraGrip Performance+: Weight: 9.48kgs Tread: 9.1mm

            Common sense says the GY would last longer due to the more tread, but the commercials say that Michelin makes wonders and their tires last longer than competitive brands. I never drive Michelin and I cannot comment on that.

            I m definitely not the right person for an opinion on long-lasting tires. Check the reviews here and see what other ppl say.

            What are your thoughts on Blizzak LM 005? Any experience with slush or icy roads? How do they behave in higher temps (up to 15C) and highway speeds?

            Kind regards

            #8416
            1. Enrico Azzoni Sale archived

              I drive an Opel Astra and the tyre size is 205/55/16 91 H . I drive mainly in the Netherlands but I also travel to Switzerland and Northern Italy. In the Netherlands winters are generally mild with often rainy weather but very seldom snow or ice. In the rain the tyre feels exceptionally grippy and safe, and probably thanks to the excellent state of the roads and asphalt it feels very quiet and comfortable. In higher temperatures on dry asphalt in March and April the tyre feels like a summer tyre, but you should consider that speed limits are 100 kms on main roads and roads are generally straight therefore I cannot assess how it drives in dry conditions on a twisty road.. On long travels I was able to achieve 4.2 liters per 100 kms therefore the tyre offers low resistance. driving in Switzerland and Northern italy I faced snow and lower temperatures around -10/-15 the tyre still felt safe but in those conditions I was driving slow in a column of cars and trucks. However braking always felt safe and consistent without and signs of skidding. Regarding driving on icy roads it might have happened one or twice but again I was driving slowly and safely and never broke traction. Having read multiple tests and opinions the Bridgestone Blizzak LM 005 can be described as the most all season winter tyre or a winter tyre with with all season qualities.

              #8431
              1. Sale Enrico Azzoni archived

                Thanks Enrico! For the same reason "the most all season winter tyre or a winter tyre with with all season qualities." i took Conti TS870P :)

                Jonathan, what would you say after how many years tyre should be changed disregarding on the tread depth? When does a tyre gets old? I try my best not to drive winter tyres when it is hot (but you cannot help when you have 20C in February and below 0 i January and March o.O)

                I got nasty surprise from Hankook Winter i*cept evo² on 5th winter and they were on ~5.5mm-6mm depth and they had ~22.000km on them. My 4x4 tiguan were dancing wile overtaking on snow uphill (almost touch the car I wanted to overtake). Couldn't properly exit roundabout and hit the curb (scratching the rim).
                That is why Hankook were not on my list.
                None of this would happen in first 4 winters. They were pretty good and felt secure. Maybe not amazing but i would give them 8 (out of 10)
                Did I had to high expectation from them to last 5 years? What could i expect from Conti? Is there any brand that stand out in this field?

                Thanks

                #8456
                1. TyreReviews Sale archived

                  5 years is the industry recommended maximum life and one I agree with, rubber ages with time sadly

                  #8459
                  1. Sale TyreReviews archived

                    Thanks for confirmation. I'm absolutely aware of it, but I thought that 5 year is more like rule of thumb or recommendation, like 7C for winter tyres.

                    Cheers!

                    #8466
                    1. Slobodan Sale archived

                      *7 oC average temperature (of the day).

                      #8492
  27. Freddie Poddan archived

    How come this isn't posted on the main page? The only way to access this was through the link in the youtube video description.
    I'm curious about the worse than usual performance of the Michelin Alpin 6. If there's a batch of worse performing tyres, it's possible that people have bought some of them. So in that case you're receiving a worse product than the one you've paid for.

    #8334
    1. TyreReviews Freddie Poddan archived

      I haven't finished editing it properly yet so I didn't want to push it live, I will today :)

      If it was a bad tyre, it was a very small run as another test in the same size this year has the alpin 6 doing as expected. I wouldn't be concerned about buying the tyre.

      #8339