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2011 Long Term Subjective Touring Shootout

Jonathan Benson
Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson
3 min read Updated

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Discussion

9 comments
  1. Jonporchard archived

    Please put available wheel sizes .

    #430
  2. Peter Davson-Galle archived

    i actually find this style of test extraordinarily informative in a "real world feel" sort of way.

    more please!

    and please track down ssome ecocontact 5 tests when you can

    cheers! peter

    #315
    1. TyreReviews Peter Davson-Galle archived

      Hi Peter,

      Thanks for the kind words - as you can imagine logistically a "long term group test" is very difficult to produce, but we too believe them to be incredibly useful and will try our best to continue them.

      As for the Eco Contact 5 - we were on the launch event where it was compared to an Eco Contact 3 in back to back driving. As you'd expect, it was a little better in every way, more wet grip, more MPG, more comfort. The only area it felt like a slight step back was the tyres feel - but the Eco Contact isn't a tyre you buy if you want a sporty drive!

      #316
      1. Peter Davson-galle TyreReviews archived

        actually, i am a (oldish) hoon but a hoon in a renault 4cv with an 5 alpine/gordini motor. my front wheels are 4.5" and rear 5.5", each 14" diameter. tyres are 165/65 front and 185/60 rear. what motivates me is wet grip (braking for the fronts of any rear engined car is a concern and benign and predictable behaviour at the limit when cornering is a good thing with swing axles).

        i have run quite a few tyres on this (from original michelin stop/arrete pattern x tyres onwards) and find the e3conti very good in meeting both the braking and lateral limit behaviour  challenges in parentheses above.  their main fault is that they develop their maximum cornering force at quite high slip angles and so are inherently not crisp in response.  my "quick and dirty" fix for this is to lessen their slip angles by inflation increases (35 psi front and, to balance this, 39psi rear). they are now very crisp and not too uncomfortable or skippy on bumpy corners.

        i don't think many sporting drivers appreciate enough the  tuning merits of pressure increases and playing with front/rear differences to achieve the handling traits they want.

        there should be another test article there for you.  take an understeering hatch on sloppy tyres at manufacturer's comfort-biased pressure recommendations and then ring some changes.

        cheers! peter

        #324
        1. TyreReviews Peter Davson-galle archived

          That's a great idea for an article - tyre pressure tuning!

          Thanks!

          #325
          1. Peter Davson-Galle TyreReviews archived

            just as a post scriptum on this: i suggest the new ecocontact 5 in 165/70-14 on whatever you can borrow that takes this size

            cheers! peter

            #491
            1. TyreReviews 4cvg archived

              It's on the list for a 2015 video :)

              #1321