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Michelin CrossClimate launched - is this a game changer?

Jonathan Benson
Written by Jonathan Benson
5 min read Updated
Contents
  1. Introduction
  2. Initial Driving Report
  3. Summary
  4. Other
 
In the UK, we experience every sort of winter driving condition. Heavy snow in 2012, the cold and wet winter of 2014, to the mild and warm winter of 2015, the UK really is an unpredictable climate.
 
This unpredictability makes tyre choices for the British winters difficult. Without question, winter tyres are the right tyre for freezing and snowy conditions, but with the last few winters characterised by warm wet conditions, a summer tyre would be the smarter choice overall.
 
This has lead us to start recommending "all season" tyres as the correct tyre to fit in the winter. All season tyres offer approximately 85% of a summer tyres performance in the dry and wet, and 85% of a winter tyres performance the snow which gives them a slightly better operating window for the UK than a full winter. While this balance of qualities is the best compromise currently available, the ideal tyre for the UK tyre market is a tyre which offers 99% of a summer tyres performance in the dry and wet, yet still offers the ability to perform in snow and ice for those few days a year we see adverse conditions. The good news is, Michelin claim to have done exactly that with the new Michelin CrossClimate.
 
The Michelin CrossClimate is the worlds first summer tyre which can be used in winter conditions. TUV tested, the new CrossClimate really does seem to be the magic bullet for the UK climate, with 99% of a summer tyres performance in the dry and wet, and 100% of a winter tyres performance in snow traction and braking. Is this too good to be true? Fortunately we've had some experience driving on this tyre, and we're happy to report it seems to do exactly as Michelin / TUV claim.
 
The new Michelin CrossClimate
 

Initial Driving Report

Not wanting the new Michelin CrossClimate to have an easy time, we tested the new Michelin against some class leading tyres. The summer tyre was represented by the Michelin Energy Saver+, the winter tyre was the Michelin Alpin A5 and the all season tyre the test winning Goodyear Vector 4Seasons. During initial testing, we conducted dry braking, wet handling and snow traction tests.
 
During general driving the Michelin CrossClimate felt a lot more like a "normal" tyre than the all season and winter, with sharper steering response, more direct braking and better steering feel. This was really highlighted during dry braking, where the bite and braking distance was almost identical when compared to the summer tyre, and much stronger than the all season and winter tyres.
 
During wet handling the Michelin CrossClimate equaled, if not bettered the summer tyre, and while it felt a little numb at the limit compared to the summer, it provided a more progressive nature and had more grip and feel than the all season and winter tyres, which felt weak and numb on the wet circle.
 
The snow traction test was limited to an uphill start, but it once again proved Michelin's claims that it performed as well as a full winter tyre in snow traction, and was many many times better than a summer.
 
Michelin CrossClimate TUV test results

Summary

The Michelin CrossClimate really is a game changer. There is a compromise, and the compromise is is weaker snow and ice handling but this is fine for the the UK climate. The Michelin CrossClimate offers the same wear and noise characteristics as the class leading Michelin Energy Saver+, and offers identical safety characteristics as full summer and full winter tyres in dry, wet and snow traction and braking. It also has the advantage of being "3 peak" marked, which means the tyre is legal in any country this requires a winter tyre to be used.
 
If you want to drive on one tyre year round, the Michelin CrossClimate really is the tyre to use.
 
Keep an eye on Tyre Reviews for more information on the CrossClimate - in the near future we'll be publishing a technical report about how the tyre manages to blend these qualities into a single package!
 
The new Michelin CrossClimate will be available in May in a range of 23 sizes to fit wheel sizes from 15 to 17 inches and has the european label score "A" in wet grip and "C" in rolling resistance in the majority of the sizes. More sizes coming in 2016.
 

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Other

The new CrossClimate is initially available in the following sizes

185/65 R15 V
195/55 R15 V
195/60 R15 V
195/65 R15 V
205/60 R16 H
205/60 R16 V
205/65 R15 V
195/55 R16 H
205/55 R16 V
215/55 R16 V
215/60 R16 V
215/65 R16 V
225/55 R16 W
205/50 R17 W
215/50 R17 W
215/55 R17 W
215/60 R17 V
225/45 R17 W
225/50 R17 V
225/55 R17 W
185/65 R15 T
185/60 R15 V
195/55 R16 V

with 3 new 14" sizes, 2 new 16" sizes, 5 new 17" car sizes including 235/45 R17 and 215/45 R17, 6 new SUV sizes (3 x 17", 2 x 18" & 1 x 19" CrossClimate SUV) and 3 new 18" sizes including 225/40 R18

You can read user reviews of the new CrossClimate here

 

Update: Read the first test of the new CrossClimate here

Discussion

78 comments
  1. Issikka archived

    I have been using the Michelin CrossClimate tires under my station ford mondeo diesel and for the summer it has been great, some 6000km driven and lasted well until now. In the last 2 weeks i have had 2 of them puncture and both of them shred the inside sidewalls nearly instantly after becoming flat.
    One got punctured by a small rock pebble in the middle of the tread pattern other puncture was unknown cause. Really not happy with how easily these tires seem to puncture, have been driving that same route(part gravel part asphalt all frequently driven)for 5 years now with no issues using other tires.
    Seems i may have to switch to some other brand which is a shame as i thought i had found the perfect 3 season tires here for the arctic regions of Finland(would still use studded tires for the winter months due to the ice and snow conditions here).

    #2158
  2. Tony J archived

    I normally use HP Primacy on my Volvo V70. Needing replacements I decided to go the whole hog and replaced all four tyres with the Cross Climates. I was amazed and delighted at the difference these tyres have made to the whole car. The car feels softer but secure with a more comfortable ride and there's also far less road noise. It's as if you can feel the rubber gripping to the road which is maybe not surprising as there is much more in contact due the tread pattern. I don't know if this is a performance tyre and will suit the more sporter drivers. I don't race around but do drive thousands of miles on continental roads. I don't know either what the overall wear rate will be like as the tyres are only a few months old, but fuel economy has also improved. All in all I wouldn't go back to anything else these seem the perfect choice for me, I think they are remarkable.

    #1885
  3. Robert Kenny archived

    Just found this discussion and hoped someone could advise on the suspension/cushioning abilities of the Crossclimates compared to 'ordinary' summer tyres. I am hoping to buy a new Golf SV (GT spec with sports suspension and 225/45 R 17 tyres). The dealer said it is possible to change the tyres to All Season tyres at delivery (for a fee of course!). I was hoping that the Crossclimates would not adversely affect the ride which already slightly on the hard side.
    Any help gratefully received.

    #1883
    1. TyreReviews Robert Kenny archived

      Hi Robert,

      Naturally, it depends what the summer tyre is you're replacing!

      Have a read of our full review here: http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...

      And the user reviews here: http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...

      As a rule, they should at least equal the NVH qualities of any summer tyre which could be fitted.

      As a no cost switch over option it's a very sensible choice!

      #1884
  4. Rob archived

    In all of this discussion no-one has mentioned the Bridgestone A001tyre. I have used these year round for three winters, but as we've had little snow in the south of England they have not really been tested. But I have found them great in icy conditions and in the wet too. Anyone made any comparison between these and the new Michelin cross climates?

    #1879
    1. TyreReviews Rob archived

      Hi Rob,

      We used to be huge fans of the A001 when it was first launched many years ago! Sadly, the tyre is now old, and in need of an update, which was highlighted in last years Auto Express All Season Tyre Test which can be read here:

      http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...

      #1880
  5. Ian archived

    You mention 6 new SUV sizes (3 x 17", 2 x 18" & 1 x 19" CrossClimate SUV) and 3 new 18" sizes including 225/40 R18 above. However I cannot find any mention of them on the Michelin web site. Are they not yet available or what? Thanks.

    #1868
    1. TyreReviews Ian archived

      Hi Ian, they'll be coming to market at various points this year, we'll try and update the article as and when these sizes are launched.

      #1870
    2. Donald Duck Ian archived

      Hi, I just had online chat with Michelin support trying to find out when R18 225 40 will become vailable... I hve been told not before June 2016, and as for R18 215 55 not before September 2016.
      Hope this helps

      Donald

      #1886
      1. nedge2k Donald Duck archived

        Bah, need some for the wife's TT (225/40/18). She's getting close to the wear blocks - not sure it could wait til June! :(

        #1948
  6. Diogenis archived

    7000 klm after, this is my 3d review and still very satisfited to dry and wet both, the wear also still great, seems that they have strong materials. Finaly i tested them at snow. First of all you don't stuck nowhere! Even to snow or ice. When you start once, you have the full command of the car. They are not for WRC but they are ownest and do the job. Dont forget, they are summer tyres! And also very good to snow, not top but very good! Better than all weathers and almost equal to winters. Overall is the most complete summer tyre ever made for all weather conditions!
    PS. And very-very quiet too!

    #1810
  7. Julian Bochev archived

    Hey,

    I bought a set of 4 Michelin CrossClimate 225/45/17 4 months ago. Here I've tested them in my everyday car BMW E46 330D (RWD) in dry, rain and in the last week snow. My overall opinion over the 1k miles supports the tires on places with mild climate - with strange feedback from the road on snow.

    Dry - 9/10 - sometimes they squeak, but good overall grip
    Rain - not entirely sure if I would not aquaplan - if only wet also 9/10
    Snow - just tested them in the last week and the car just would not stop but glide and slide. currently 3/10.

    I had enormous expectations since these tyres are the first ones I buy brand new and the comparison is made on a '06 bridgestone blizzak winter (RF) in the front and the same but '08 in the back (used them for 8k miles in 4 seasons) - they do not feel much better :D

    I will get back to you with more info on the snowy road in 2 weeks.

    #1789
    1. pgtipsster Julian Bochev archived

      Those aren't Michelin cross climates on your car. Thread pattern looks wrong.

      #1947
      1. Julian Bochev pgtipsster archived

        True, just wanted to point out that wide all season tires with RWD did not serve me well.

        #2350
  8. Diogenis archived

    Continuing my review and after 5000 klm, i am still enthousiastic with CrossClimate, i was a little bit worried about the wear, but the tyres are like news! Very strong tyre and very good in dry roads, even better in the rain! This tyre loves wet roads in the same way it loves the dry handling. Still haveto try it to snow. I am waiting with a smile of cofidence to the mouth! Will see... , i think that i bought the best tyre for a stickler for driver. Only in Scadinavian i had to search farther!

    #1782
  9. Mike archived

    I live in the Lake District and hoped for an "all-rounder" that wouldn't be a compromise, and the CrossClimate is exactly that. I've just come from a very snowy Glenriddning, and had to do a hill start on a snow covered steep hill due to a struggling car, pulling away was effortless. I'm in an MK4 Renault Espace that was previously a nightmare on even the slightest bit of slush.

    #1778
  10. Lukica Stipetić archived

    UP DATE 15.12.2017.
    tires I removed from the car after 29 months and 39 000km.
    Tire depth 5,8-6,3mm ..
    The rubber has become plastic.My advice to change after 2 years or 30 thousand kilometers.

    Hello everyone

    I got to my car, vw golf mk6 in dimension 195/65/15 M. Crossclimate.

    I walked with them around 6,000 kilometers.

    The tires were better than I expected.

    They are comfortable and pretty quiet for the "V" design pattern.

    Excellent lateral grip in the wet cornering.

    Before I had two sets of tires, continental "PremiumContact 5" in summer and "TS830" in the winter ... in the same car in the same dimension 195/65/15

    What I have noticed so far negative, it is that love turn into an empty wheel, a sudden start.

    I attribute this "air design" pattern on the tires.

    Then I noticed that during heavy braking earlier lights abs.

    You could also say the same ... because if the friction surfaces are loosened ... not expect behavior such as racing "slick" tires.

    Either way, we will see how it will be this winter, with snow in my town.

    Nice greetings from Croatian

    UPDATE_19.01.2017.
    tires I bought and installed in June 2015.
    rotate them every 7-8000 tkm.
    now have about 25 000 km.
    means it's been half a lifetime.
    the depth of the tread (TREAD) are about 6-6,5mm.
    this winter NO GRIP excellence in parallel with the past (when they were about 10 000 km)
    Traction movement on a hill in the snow and ice is excellent ... but lateral grip on icy and snowy surface is not as good.
    dry road below zero and still excellent.
      wet winter roads is also excellent

    if anyone has any questions I am available.

    #1697
    1. Damir Novak Lukica Stipetić archived

      Luka, I am also from croatia so we have the similar climate. I was wondering can you tell me something about the wear of the tyre? Is it realistic to hope to get 30tkm and 3 years out of them?

      #1913
      1. Lukica Stipetić Damir Novak archived

        tires I bought and installed in June 2015.
        rotate them every 7-8000 tkm.
        now have about 25 000 km.
        means it's been half a lifetime.
        the depth of the tread (TREAD) are about 6-6,5mm.
        this winter NO GRIP excellence in parallel with the past (when they were about 10 000 km)
        Traction movement on a hill in the snow and ice is excellent ... but lateral grip on icy and snowy surface is not as good.
        dry road below zero and still excellent.
        wet winter roads is also excellent

        if anyone has any questions I am available.

        #2373
  11. Mark Brandwood archived

    Hi will michelin do a 205/45/17/88v. Crossclimate to fit my DS3 THANKS mark

    #1681
    1. TyreReviews Mark Brandwood archived

      We've requested the latest list of sizes from Michelin for this year and next, and will update the article accordingly.

      #1684
    2. TyreReviews Mark Brandwood archived

      Apparently this is a size in development, but as it's primarily a Mini runflat version, it will be as a runflat tyre initially.

      #1698
  12. marcusandronicus archived

    Do you know if this tyre will be produced in the 225/65/R17 tyre size as this is a popular SUV tyre size, CRV, RAV 4, CX-5 etc.

    #1601
    1. Cyberwiz marcusandronicus archived

      They are not available at the moment. You should take a look at the Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons SUV version. I have them myself and liking them so far ( only tested on road and off road, not yet in the winter / snow )

      #1603
      1. marcusandronicus Cyberwiz archived

        What are they like for noise. I have whisper quiet Michelin Latitude Tour's (M+S) on at present. Great in the Dry, and wet. Were good in 8 inches of Snow that we had three years ago, although they were brand new then with a full 8mm of tread. Now down to 4mm after 35K miles. Thinking of either the same again or all seasons.

        #1609
        1. Cyberwiz marcusandronicus archived

          For me they are fine, but I don't hear much difference between loud or quiet tyres, so I am probably not a good Judge for that :)

          #1623
    2. TyreReviews marcusandronicus archived

      Sorry for the delay, Michelin will be producing a 225/65 R17 tyre, but not until Q3 2016, as the CrossClimate SUV.

      #1699
      1. Cyberwiz TyreReviews archived

        Looking forward to the CrossClimate SUV myself :p I hope Autobild will do another All Season SUV test which includes the CrossClimates and Vector4Seasons this time.

        p.s. There was an All Season SUV test in 2015 by Autobild, maybe TyreReviews could do an article on this?

        Here is a link ( can't get to the actual article ... ) :
        http://www.autobild.de/arti...

        #1705
  13. Cyberwiz archived

    So as I suspected, the Cross Climate is a top All Seasons tyre, but the Vector 4 Seasons Gen 2 beats it in snow and ice conditions and in the wet. Only in dry conditions the Cross Climate is better. Overall the Vector 4 Seasons Gen 2 is the test winner and the Cross Climate is Second. Go check out the Autobild article.
    BTW, when will Tyrereviews publish the latest All Seasons review from Autobild?
    There was also an SUV All Seasons tyre test on Autobild.

    #1592
    1. Dene Cyberwiz archived

      I actually think the Crossclimate is the better tyre for the UK with its milder winters as it doesnt compromise dry performance so much for much of the year with considerably better dry performance, has wet performance almost on par with the Vector 4 seasons as well as similar traction and breaking in the snow, although admittedly weaker handling in the snow for the few days a year we get any.

      Nothing in it climbing the snowdome here https://www.youtube.com/wat...

      #1593
      1. Cyberwiz Dene archived

        The wet performance is not on par, the Goodyears are better in the wet and the Michelins are better in the dry. But the Goodyears are also better in the snow. That is why the Goodyears come out on top.

        #1602
        1. Dene Cyberwiz archived

          The goodyears are slightly better in the wet but the muchelins are a lot better in the dry. Cheers

          #1606
          1. Cyberwiz Dene archived

            That's not what the Autobild test shows, I don't know how Tyrereviews calculates the scores, but in Autobild the Michelins gets 3+ ( 7 ) for Snow, 2+ ( 8,5 ) for Wet and 1- ( 9 ) for Dry. While the Goodyears get 2 ( 8 ) for Snow, 1- ( 9 ) for Wet and 2 for Dry. They both get 1- ( 9 ) for Value ( Price, Wear and Milage ).
            Autobild uses a scale from 1+ to 6, that translates roughly to a scale of 10 to 1.
            The Tyrereviews difference in the dry of 6 to 9 is just not a correct representation of the Autobild test. The Goodyears get an 8 for 1- in the Wet while the Michelins get a 9 for 1- in the Dry ?!

            #1610
            1. TyreReviews Cyberwiz archived

              Hi Ibe,

              Unlike Auto Bild we categorise rolling resistance and noise outside of "dry" performance so we try and average out the dry handling and dry braking scores were possible, to give a total. In the example of the Michelin, the score was 1- (8) for dry handling and 1 (9) for dry braking. Where there's no way of averaging cleanly, we put the preference on dry braking, which gives the Michelin a score of 9.

              I hope that makes sense.

              #1612
            2. Dene Cyberwiz archived

              This test contradicts the autobild test and shows the Michelin crossclimates to be better in the wet
              http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...

              As I suspected the wet performance is very close between the 2 tyres as is the snow traction and braking, however the Michelins are far superior in the dry which is very important for most of the year in the UK. I'm very happy I went for the crossclimates, however both tyres are excellent for all year round use, but if you like to push on in the dry during summer I feel overall the Michelins are the better for the UK climate. Cheers

              #1625
    2. Diogenis Cyberwiz archived

      Yes but they have almost or the same score for snow and wet roads very small diference, on dry roads CrossClimate have very big diference 9 to 6, to wear also last more. So you get with CrossClimate an original very good performance summer tyre with top dry and snow performance and not the oposite!

      #1780
  14. Ryszard Gruszka archived

    Hi Just one question Can I use CrossClimate tyres driving from UK to Poland across Germany for Xmas? .As far as I know by German law car should be fitted with winter tyres thx

    #1590
    1. Cyberwiz Ryszard Gruszka archived

      Hey,
      The Cross Climate should have the 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol. If it has that then it is classified as a winter tyre. If it has not, then I would not buy it :p
      But in the latest Autobild test the Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen 2 is the test winner with the Cross Climate in second place, so I would take a good look at it first.

      #1591
    2. Dene Ryszard Gruszka archived

      Yes it has the 3 peak mountain snowflake so legal in countries that require Winter tyres.

      #1594
      1. hans Dene archived

        in our country winter tyre are those with m+s written on it

        #1711
        1. TyreReviews hans archived

          Unfortunately the M+S marking is a very poor indication of winter capabilities, and just signifies a certain "land/void" ratio of the pattern.

          The 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol is much better, but still only indicates the tyre was 7% better than a reference tyre in snow traction.

          As always, keep an eye on the tests :)

          #1712
          1. turboseize TyreReviews archived

            Yes, M+S tells absolutely nothing but that the manufacturer decided to write "M+S" on the sidewall, but still, the Straßenverkehrsordnung defines winter tyres as M+S tyres.
            So theoretically a chinese summer tyre with M+S labels would be fine according to law, a dedicated snow tyre with just the 3PMSF would be not.
            Of course this regulation is utter bullshit.

            So what to do? Look for 3PMSF, and if you want to go to Germany or Austria, make sure the tyre also sports M+S. In fact, I do not know of any sowflake-tyre that is not also marked M+S, but theoretically, those could exist...

            #1762
    3. Diogenis Ryszard Gruszka archived

      Yes you can, above says that they have "3 peak" marked, which means the tyre is legal in any country this requires a winter tyre to be used.

      #1781
  15. Dene archived

    Interestingly on this article the Michelin crossclimate is better in the snow than a vector4season, but in Auto bilds latest all season tyre tests they scored poor in the snow. I'm guessing if the traction is as good as suggested in this article it must have been marked down on handling?

    #1560
    1. TyreReviews Dene archived

      Correct. The CrossClimate was designed for milder winter climates where snow and ice handling was less of a requirement. It's not recommended for northern European regions for this reason

      #1561
      1. Dene TyreReviews archived

        Thanks for clearing that up, they look quite impressive going up the Tamworth snowdome on your YouTube video getting up just ahead of the 4seasons gen 2

        #1566
        1. TyreReviews Dene archived

          No problem. That test wasn't particularly scientific, on other runs the Goodyear narrowly beat the CrossClimate depending on lane and driver combination. We set out to discover whether the CrossClimate would be "good enough" for UK winters, and we believe it is.

          #1567
    2. Cyberwiz Dene archived

      I would not say the CrossClimate scored poor in the snow ( in the Autobild test ), they are just better in the dry and less good in the wet and snow versus the Vector 4 Seasons Gen2
      Besides this article ( with the TUV comparison ) uses the old Vector 4 Seasons, not the Gen2.

      #1604
      1. Dene Cyberwiz archived

        This is true, the TUV comparison is against the original vector4seasons, which I had on a RWD car a few years ago. They performed brilliant for me in snow during a harsh winter, so if this comparison is correct the crossclimates are more than adequate for most of the UK during winter. What I did notice about the vector4seasons was the dry braking seemed quite poor compared to the previous set of tyres I used, and Since I like to enjoy a spirited drive round the country lanes during summer, Ive decided to go with the crossclimates which are based on summer tyres this time round. After a couple of days with them I'm very impressed with the dry handling and breaking do far! Cheers

        #1608
  16. Wilf Halliwell archived

    Any word on when they may bring out this tyre in 19" sizes?

    #1503
    1. TyreReviews Wilf Halliwell archived

      We're not even sure 19s are on the roadmap yet, 18s are due next year.

      We'll find out for you.

      #1506
        1. TyreReviews MrJoshua archived

          It's almost certain Michelin won't make a fitment for cars like the m3, as even with all the new technology in the CrossClimate, there would still be too great a compromise under year round driving.

          We're afraid a dedicated summer and winter combo is your best bet if you need your m3 to be mobile in snow.

          #1521
          1. MrJoshua TyreReviews archived

            Cheers! Which winters would you recommend?

            #1523
            1. TyreReviews MrJoshua archived

              We ran Michelin Pilot Alpin 4's on our e46 M3, they were awesome.

              That said, the only "correct" answer to a winter tyre question is a Continental WinterContact TS850 P

              #1526
  17. Ben archived

    I don't suppose you have any word on when they may bring out these tyres in 18" sizes?

    #1501
    1. TyreReviews Ben archived

      "Next year" is all we've heard. We'll update the article when we know more.

      #1502
  18. Diogenis archived

    Διογένης • 3 minutes ago
    Almost 10.000 klm and 1.5 year with crossclimates and still without problem in any kind of weather, hot, cold, rain, snow, always perfect. Furthermore the wear is remarkable, like new ones, with use in asphalt roads only. Very good in dry roads and perfect in wet roads. Best choice for Summer tyre (and as rain tyre and as winter tyre!) Its the top tyre, if you search it, you ll never find a test for summer tyres only including Crossclimates! I think that is in top 5 in this category and for sure a lot over average, imagine the distance form compenditors plus wet and snow performance... Miles away !

    Continuing my review and after almost 1000 klm more, i have to give my congratulations to the people of Michelin. I drove in high temperatures (above 40 C) i also went at highlands with temperatures 16 C to 35 C, with full load and roof box. The feeling was great and the tyres had perfect grip at all dry conditions. But the highlight was when i fell in heavy rain, the car steering like a n army tanks, stuck at the road and in places with stagnant water passed flawlessly. Also i tested them with hard braking just to feel how the tyres responds at wet and very wet road. The braking was great!!! I have only to wait the winter for the snow test.

    Bravo again toMmichelin, great job!

    Διογένης • 12 days ago

    I just buy the cross climates 195/60/15 for my Focus, it's summer here in Greece with 41C degrees! The tyres are great! Stucked to the road, noiseless, and with very good grip and handling. Better from my previous Michelin enrgy savers to dry, for now, roads. When i ll have news for dry conditions i ll be back with a review. I feel safe with the thinking that i will waking up with rain or snow and in the meantime the sun shows up and the roads become dry, all these with the same tyres. I think that Michelin changes the rules of tyres market, with this 2 in 1 and new category tyre, the Crossclimate.
    PS Thank you generally for your reviews. They are very helpfull for us to make a right tyre choise.

    #1485
    1. Tympanidis Georgios Diogenis archived

      Diogenis please contact me on my facebook profile (Tympanidis Georgios) so I can ask you some things about the tires and Greek climate. Thanks in advance!

      #2358
  19. Keith Warnell archived

    I wanted some of these for my Merc SLK but they dont seem to be available in 245/40/17 for the rear. Seems impossible to find all season tyres in this size?

    #1419
    1. Cyberwiz Keith Warnell archived

      Hmm not easy indeed, the Dunlops come close : http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...

      Vredstein also comes close :
      http://www.tyrereviews.co.u...

      But close is not good enough :p

      I don't think there are any All Season tyres in that size.

      So you got 3 options :
      Buy a second set of winter tyres.
      Buy a second set of winter tyres with seperate wheels.
      Buy different set of wheels ( in a popular All Season size, for example 225/45 R17 ) and get All Season tyres ( Goodyear Vector4Season, Pirelli Cinturauto AllSeason or perhaps the Micheling Cross Climate if it lives up to it's hype ) and sell your current wheels.

      #1420
  20. Cyberwiz archived

    They look good on paper indeed. But so far there has been a lot of hype and marketing speak for what essentially looks like an improved version of the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons. Even the thread pattern looks quite similar.
    It would be nice if these tyres perform as good as advertised, but so far no serious test review has been published. There are many other new releases to compare too besides the Vector 4Seasons ( Nokian WeatherProof, Pirelli Cinturato AllSeason, Firestone MultiSeason, Hankook Kinergy 4S, ... ). I will wait for a professional review, like the ones from Autobild, before buying a set of these or others.

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  21. Gary archived

    On paper these tyres really do look the business. Being in the UK, I'm seriously considering purchasing a set of these (all being well I'll be due new rubber around September time.)
    My one nagging doubt, is those few weeks in the height of summer when the temperature is around the 20-25 degrees mark. I'm probably worrying about nothing, but when you look through all the marketing and info provided. There is not one mention of how these tyres perform in high summer conditions anywhere.
    Perhaps you guys are in a position to elaborate further on this?

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    1. TyreReviews Gary archived

      Hi Gary,

      While we've not seen any temperature controlled data, we did have the chance to warm them up on the launch beyond "normal summer road driving" temperatures, and noticed no untoward behaviour. A writer for the site has a set on for a long term review, the first part of that should be live this week so keep an eye on the site :)

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    2. Andrew Gary archived

      Gary - I read on one Michelin site (sorry I cannot post the link) that the Cross Climate and other makers' all-season tyres are optimized for road use in -5 to +30 deg.C weather temperatures. The British summer should be fine but don't take them to Track Day (where they would overheat), nor to ski resorts where you need chains and/or full-on winter rubber to deal with ice and deep snow. Tyre Reviews now has a first test report online, with a comparison to the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons.

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      1. Cyberwiz Andrew archived

        The test report from Tyre Reviews is a nice first impression, and much appreciated but we need more tests, data and comparisons :p
        But I can agree that you shouldn't use All Season tyres on a race track. On Ski resorts I would dare use good All Season tyres on a 4WD, but yah, if you know you are going into deep snow, it would be wise to get yourself a top quality Winter Tyres :p

        But as long as you stay in the, UK, Belgium or Holland on regular roads, get yourselves a set of good All Season tyres and don't worry anymore about Winter or Summer :p

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        1. Gary Cyberwiz archived

          Cheers for the replies guys! It is my intention to go for a set of the Cross Climate's when the time comes (September or so.) Don't worry about track days... I don't think my Kia estate has much apatite for that lol!! And of course, I shall do a review on here when the time comes. Many thanks!!

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  22. Steve archived

    I'm struggling to find an available 4 season tyre for a rear wheel drive Mercedes that is a pig in the snow. Size 245 40 17 91W. Also can you sensibly mix 4 season on the rear drive with summer tyres

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    1. TyreReviews Steve archived

      We wouldn't recommend mixing all seasons and summers, they have quite a different balance of qualities.

      Have you checked out the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons? That should be made in your sizes.

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  23. mike archived

    so does it out perform even their own winter tires in the winter? because i have had a set of ix4's for a few seasons now and i've never driven anything better on icy roads. its snow performance is still good after a few seasons but has definitely faded a bit since they were new

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    1. TyreReviews mike archived

      It equals the Michelin Pilot Alpin 4 in snow traction and braking.

      The Alpin 4 will beat the CrossClimate in other winter areas, such as handling and perhaps slush, but it comes with the drawbacks in the dry and wet that this tyre doesn't.

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  24. erk1n archived

    Could you please compare Michelin CrossClimate with Nokian WR A3 which is called All Weather Plus? Thank you

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    1. TyreReviews erk1n archived

      Nokian are just launching a new all season tyre. I believe this will be in the Auto Bild AllSeason tyre test later this year.

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